Park City MR 3/22/2014

Decided to go trolling over @ PCMR on a sunny Saturday with a high of about 45 degrees. All I got was little kids screaming things like "my eye hurts" on the lift. Mental note.........IPOD mandatory for trips to PCMR.

Quick summary : machine groomed hardpack all day long. Softened up in the afternoon to be quite slushy. I stayed on the groomers all day.......all the high speed quads and 6 packs. It was fairly uneventful. The real impetus for my trip was to head over to the Canyons to see Steel Pulse in the afternoon. Unfortunately, lead singer got sick and the show was cancelled.

Well, at least I got a decent goggle tan.....................

Saw something I had never seen before in 30 years of skiing -- someone fall off the lift. A little girl fell >30 ft ...it was horrible. I didn't witness the fall but I did see the 5 patrollers attend to her. King Con shut down while they brought the chopper in ....terrible terrible event. Sure hope the kid is ok.......but 30 feet is really no small height from which to fall :(
 

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I wish that we had known you were there! That way you wouldn't have had to ski:

jojo_obrien":3qtx58q7 said:
machine groomed hardpack all day long.

Silly boy! ](*,) We actually went out of our way to avoid north-facing terrain all day today, even late into the afternoon. That was indeed scratchy all day, but that wasn't what today was all about. Today was about the south-facing. Bobby Danger coined a new term today for my 59th day on skis this season: "cornfection". Does this look like "machine groomed hardpack" to you?

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We spent the day abiding by the letter of the law, if not always by the spirit of the law. Never once did we cross a ropeline, but there were times that we found, oh...shall we say, "weaknesses in PCMR ski patrol's rope placements"? That gave us run after run of untracked corn, perhaps the most perfect corn snow that I've ever experienced. Two inches deep, supportable and smooth beneath. I just don't think that they expected anyone to adopt Alta-style traverse tactics. I've learned well from my ten years in Little Cottonwood Canyon. :wink:

We started off low on the mountain on Vista. While the top was roped off to prevent access to the Eagle race course, we followed the rope line to its end and simply cut through the woods.

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We eventually worked our way higher up. Spying an absolutely perfect and untracked line beneath the Summit House restaurant, we were able to pass through the open gate into Blueslip Bowl and then traverse behind the rope to access the goods. We got there completely legally but I still didn't want to spend a lot of time standing around just off the Summit House sundeck to have to answer questions as to how we got there. It was much too high profile a location. And I sure as hell wasn't going to stop to shoot photos.

Our mid-morning runs were spent hiking Pioneer Ridge repeatedly and dropping onto the south side in the warm sun toward McConkey's.

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Before lunch, we headed to the lower slopes of south-facing Pinecone Ridge. When Pinecone is closed there are a series of ropes designed to force skiers further and further down the hill. We were able to pass by the lowest closure ropes at the bottom of Scotty's Bowl and traverse out...and out...and out -- probably a good mile and a half -- to ski the finest goods on the final pitches of Half Moon and Quarter Moon.

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Lunch was at High West Distillery in town, the world's only ski-in/ski-out gastrodistillery. AmyZ and I each had the $16 "Skier's Special" that consisted of a sampler of the roasted tomato soup, a small salad and home-cooked pulled pork (and lacking the dripping BBQ sauce that masks the wonderful flavor of the meat), served atop a bed of purple cabbage slaw on a wonderful roll. Of course I had to nearly double my tab by washing it down with a Rendezvous Rye whiskey smash. Bobby had the homemade chicken pot pie that was obscenely loaded with meat. And we finished it off with a cinnamon-grilled Krispy Kreme donut topped with vanilla ice cream and drizzled with Rendezvous Rye and caramel. Exceptional!

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Returning to the top of the Town Lift, we bumped into TRam who was on patrol duty today and just returning from an accident call. That's how I first learned of the rider falling from King Con. TRam was able to stick with us for two lift rides, although he was unable to travel further as he was assigned to the summit trail pod.

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On the lift we regaled him with tales of our day's exploits as we headed back for another helping of creamed corn.

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Skiing back down PayDay at 4 p.m., my cell phone rang. It was TRam. Apparently there was some chatter in the patrol room about a fresh set of tracks on Pinecone Ridge. [-X I laughed hard, first thinking that they had spotted our tracks above the Thaynes lift, but in the end came to realize that he was referring to a fresh set of tracks from the top of the ridge. No, that wasn't us, but it's definitely the first time that I've gotten a phone call from ski patrol to see if I've been poaching. :-#

:lol:

Like Bobby said, "cornfection." It's funny how two people can have two such radically different experiences at the same place on the same day.
 
jojo_obrien":1aoga616 said:
Saw something I had never seen before in 30 years of skiing -- someone fall off the lift. A little girl fell >30 ft ...it was horrible. I didn't witness the fall but I did see the 5 patrollers attend to her. King Con shut down while they brought the chopper in ....terrible terrible event. Sure hope the kid is ok.......but 30 feet is really no small height from which to fall :(

Unfortunately, I've seen it several times. Including me and a couple others holding orange pop fencing under the kid as she slipped out of dad's grasp... not ever something you want to see or deal with.

As to the skiing, yet another tale of opposites between Utah and Colorado. Snowing over this way today, but not enough to be more than a few wet inches of dust on crust except North facing terrain which still hasn't really fully melted on steep stuff.
 
DAY...56... took a bit of exploring around and skiing lines in places one wouldn't think to ski , unless your part of this group . skied behind the mid mtn. lodge for the first harvest of the day , from there it was for the most part un-fettered by anyone else the rest of the day . cornfection !
 
Bobby Danger":3o3j1wtx said:
DAY...56... took a bit of exploring around and skiing lines in places one wouldn't think to ski , unless your part of this group . skied behind the mid mtn. lodge for the first harvest of the day , from there it was for the most part un-fettered by anyone else the rest of the day . cornfection !

Just to clarify, that was the Summit House. The Mid-Mountain Lodge is a completely different building in a completely different location.
 
I have to say Admin, Amy and Bobby are some of the best folks to ski with! they are always smiling and defiantly think outside the box. Which why they turn average spring days into some really good turns.
As per admins first run that he was dodging patrol and therefore couldn't take photos. Adjacent to blue slip bowl below summit house restaurant is marked on the Patrol map as "the observation deck" and is a short 600 or so vert shot of some pretty knarly cliff bands and chutes. It faces south and turns corn early. On heavy snow years they open this terrain in january and on lean yrs (2012-2013)sometimes not at all. Locals on bigger years would sit and drink beers from the outdoor patio while there friends took turns lapping it. You get a good look at this from lookers right on Pioneer lift.

As for the girl who fell from King Con: she slipped under the foot rest/bar and fell landing on her knees and crown of her head. She was wearing a helmet and was knocked out. Patrollers where there when she came too and she immediately started moving and crying (good signs). She was backboarded and flown out. REports back where she was fine and after MRI's and observation had a "sore neck only". If thats the case then good for all those involved. being 5 yr old has its advantages I guess

As for the chatter in the patrol shack: First around 130 prior to meeting up with admin there is a radio call from Jupiter patrol of seven skier lines and a skin track coming down lower pincone on a run called home light (not admin, but got my attention). After riding a couple of chairs with admin,amy and bobby D (who I will know refer to as the "hole in the wall gang" from Butch Cassidy lore) Admin tells me of this magical corn skiing on Pioneer ridge (open) and pinecone ridge (not open). Then during first sweeps ~410pm I'm sitting talking with our top 3 snow safety guys and they are getting calls about tracks coming off the lower pinecone area near Thaynes lift (this is from the Hole in the wall gang) I get up walk to another room and call Admin. He starts laughing and explains how he got there (there are signs that say not to traverse above this point and theoretically they didn't). Nobody was too seemingly concerned and they plan on opening pinecone tom for hiking and full skiing. Infact it should have been open today and snow safety mistakenly thought that due to the front that dropped and inch of snow and some cooler air that it wouldn't soften and be to icy for skiing.
 
TRam":wpeozl6i said:
Then during first sweeps ~410pm I'm sitting talking with our top 3 snow safety guys and they are getting calls about tracks coming off the lower pinecone area near Thaynes lift (this is from the Hole in the wall gang)

So, it was our tracks that got their attention after all! That's almost comical, because we got there without violating any patrol ropelines or closures whatsoever. We simply skied below the lowest end of the lowest rope coming out of Scotty's Bowl, stayed below the "don't hike above here" signs, and held that elevation for over a mile. Tomorrow they can follow our traverse line. :wink: When discussing our tracks, they apparently didn't realize that anyone would keep that elevation on a traverse for that long a distance. We had spotted that line from below, however, and knew darned well that we could reach it legally, albeit with a bit of effort.

In Little Cottonwood that would've gotten hammered. But the Park City skiers apparently don't think that creatively?

I'm not going to be able to get the "Hole in the Wall Gang" to PCMR tomorrow, but anyone who's there will find that Pinecone (from the top) will assuredly rock!
 
Yes it came up during jupiter sweeps of Thaynes canyon. They just want to be sure nobody was passed out or hurt up there, but seeing tracks coming out of an area are almost always better then tracks going in and not coming out, ie falling in the creek or getting stuck. I didnt name names and always have your back.
 
TRam":2accvppo said:
I didnt name names and always have your back.

\:D/

And regarding:

TRam":2accvppo said:
they plan on opening pinecone tom for hiking and full skiing. Infact it should have been open today and snow safety mistakenly thought that due to the front that dropped and inch of snow and some cooler air that it wouldn't soften and be to icy for skiing.

They couldn't have been more wrong!
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TRam":2qngg09i said:
First around 130 prior to meeting up with admin there is a radio call from Jupiter patrol of seven skier lines and a skin track coming down lower pincone on a run called home light (not admin, but got my attention).

I just pulled up Google Maps and yes, those tracks on Homelite were indeed the ones that I thought that you were referring to in your phone call. We had spotted those on our last ride up Silverlode at about 3:35. They were absolutely not there yesterday morning.
 
This was one impressive report. Like TRam I =D> the creativity in extracting this level of quality out of what could have easily been an uninspiring day.
 
I was at PC on Friday 3/21, which doesn't seem to have been as good as Saturday. My best run was Pinecone Ridge around 11:45am. The bootpack is nice and quick and the corn was perfect. Unfortunately, it got a bit cloudy and cooler in the afternoon so it wasn't full on corn on the rest of the mountain. Conditions were generally pretty bad, but still skiable on the the more northern-facing aspects of Jupiter.

Overall, I'm not a fan of Park City. Jupiter was the only area with steeper pitches that are long enough to be interesting, but even then, I don't see why I would ever choose PC over Altabird.
 
Staley":2ep48ftg said:
I don't see why I would ever choose PC over Altabird.

For Saturday our choice was fairly simple. Those who were in Little Cottonwood Canyon on Friday reported that things never really softened at all, and I was able to confirm after the fact that the same thing happened on Sunday. We thus decided to go a few thousand feet lower for Saturday with the expectation that the snow would soften more quickly and more thoroughly. When we made the decision on Friday night that seemed to be a no-brainer, and as you can see it worked out very, very well!
 
very very well , the thought of being one thousand five hundred feet plus lower on some of the skiing payed off , started the morning in exact reverse of the last time at pc . instead of heading for higher lifts early , where it was a bit colder we skied low on the mtn. for the first hour and a half , finding semi soft snow at the beginning on the right aspect . the first real harvest run happened around 10:30 behind the observation deck {as corrected by TRam ) . a slight bit of creative thinking scored us that run.
 
Tony Crocker":2jl808qo said:
This was one impressive report. Like TRam I =D> the creativity in extracting this level of quality out of what could have easily been an uninspiring day.

meh.........the only thing truly inspiring was admin's lunch report............i would have liked to have seen some pics......

Staley":2jl808qo said:
I was at PC on Friday 3/21, which doesn't seem to have been as good as Saturday. My best run was Pinecone Ridge around 11:45am. The bootpack is nice and quick and the corn was perfect. Unfortunately, it got a bit cloudy and cooler in the afternoon so it wasn't full on corn on the rest of the mountain. Conditions were generally pretty bad, but still skiable on the the more northern-facing aspects of Jupiter.

Overall, I'm not a fan of Park City. Jupiter was the only area with steeper pitches that are long enough to be interesting, but even then, I don't see why I would ever choose PC over Altabird.

Staley I probably have to agree with you ........however.....I have had one epic day at PCMR. The skiing off of Jupiter can be lots of fun if noone is around....and I think the trees off of McConkeys is some of the best tree skiing in Utah. The glade skiing between the aspens is something that Alta does not offer. Nothing more beautiful and unique then ripping through the aspens with 1-2" of fresh............

More on Alta/Bird experience .....
http://www.skinet.com/ski/article/taking-flight
 
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