Alta/Snowbird, UT 1/26/2013

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Day 34: Before the storm.

Warm breezes picked up from the southwest yesterday ahead of a medium-sized storm that's moving in today. While dense fog socked in the Salt Lake Valley it was merely overcast in the mountains, spitting a flake or two from the grey skies on and off throughout the day.

And it was humid. Very humid for these parts, and the snow was picking up on the humidity. It skied quite well, however, and Skidog, Bobby Danger, AmyZ, Telejon and I did our best to take advantage of it from 9:15 a.m. to 3 p.m. on terrain stretching from Supreme at Alta to Gadzoom at Snowbird. Thursday's 4" dressed things up a bit but the pattern change beginning today is what we've all been waiting for.

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And it's coming just in time, for some of the hairier spots are especially hairy right now. We tried to drop into Great Scott via the primary entrance but it's been scraped down to nothing. We skied Jaws instead, where I can verify that the crux is precisely 188cm wide (because my skis jammed between the rocks trying to get through). Getting out to Lone Pine via the Wilbere traverse is positively ugly.

We bumped into Skrad, who lapped Devil's Castle several times after they opened it today, and some other non-FTO friends but that's about it. It wasn't busy at all.

I awoke this morning and was greeted to a view of the lights of the city out my living room window with a full moon setting across the Oquirrh Mountains. I haven't seen that view in weeks...the inversion is finally gone!
 
was a fantastic day -- only question is is it possible to make flatter light than we had. powder paradise on the last run of the day at the bird , was the worst light i think i've had to deal with this year . the ho-chi-min out to mid cirque is living to it's full potential , boarders have scrapped it to nothing in places. upper cirque still in some of the chutes, there's large rock sticking out,steeeeep, smooth, fast edgeable surface for the most part , just avoid the large rock . the wilber traverse across upper wilber bowl could use more snow ,, again boarders on steeeep terrain . lone pine skied remarkably well, smooth somewhat steeep , and not crunchy down to death road , stopping on death road for a quick look at blue angle (really lower lone pine )out onto big emma to the chair .
 
BobbyDanger":36v56tid said:
only question is is it possible to make flatter light than we had
Yeah, try the Alps in January sometime. There are trees visible in nearly all the pics in the above report.
 
Tony Crocker":1wb6jwir said:
BobbyDanger":1wb6jwir said:
only question is is it possible to make flatter light than we had
Yeah, try the Alps in January sometime. There are trees visible in nearly all the pics in the above report.
Flat light doesn't obscure trees - it hides surface detail.
 
Marc_C":2ozmxto1 said:
Tony Crocker":2ozmxto1 said:
BobbyDanger":2ozmxto1 said:
only question is is it possible to make flatter light than we had
Yeah, try the Alps in January sometime. There are trees visible in nearly all the pics in the above report.
Flat light doesn't obscure trees - it hides surface detail.

Trees help to get contrast right? So without trees it would be flatter and harder to see.

Now of course that's an average and a generalization so its probably not true, especially in Utah, in your experience. :grin:

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MarcC":3ibfk2bm said:
Flat light doesn't obscure trees - it hides surface detail.
Can we possibly get any pickier in pedantic comments? We should all defer to MarcC's presumably extensive experience skiing in places far above the tree line in places like the Alps, the Andes and New Zealand, and finding no difference in visibility of surface detail in those places vs. in Utah :snowball fight: .
 
The contrast that the trees provide, reveals surface detail.

The worst flat-light experience I've had was at A-Basin, sometime in the mid-90's. The light was such that the sky and the snow were indistinguishable to my eyes. After 2 or 3 flat-light-induced faceplants on the gentler-pitched slopes of the high alpine (I ski freeheel), I quickly retreated to Pallavicini, where the skiing was much steeper and more technical, and, at least with my eyes, much easier.
 
Marc_C":1y74tmjp said:
Tony Crocker":1y74tmjp said:
BobbyDanger":1y74tmjp said:
only question is is it possible to make flatter light than we had
Yeah, try the Alps in January sometime. There are trees visible in nearly all the pics in the above report.
Flat light doesn't obscure trees - it hides surface detail.

Oh fer chrissakes, this is arguing just to argue. Yes trees create contrast in an otherwise vanilla on vanilla world and we all know that's what he meant.

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jamesdeluxe":1yf5t7yb said:
Tony Crocker":1yf5t7yb said:
Yeah, try the Alps in January sometime.
+1

Exhibit A was today's storm. No trees = advanced vertigo.

Great response from the JAAFTOG (January Austrian Alps FTO gang). =D> Nothing to add.
 
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