Another Worth It question - regarding Utah

Scary Face

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Firsth off - This site is amazing I wish I more time to read through all the information.

My friend and I have the oppertunity to visit Utah (Park City) during the first week of December.

Will there be snow at Park City? The Canyons? Is there are chance that there will be no snow?

We may be able to push the trip back to the second week.

This would be our 1st trip out to Utah and this oppertunity was just sprung on us....Didn't have much time to research.
 
Well, let's not kid ourselves: no one can predict whether or not there will be good snow with any degree of certainty. We can, however, look at historical data and extrapolate that to arrive at a probability. That said, the first week of December is quite early, and history would indicate that in Utah your odds of quality snow are likely to be greater at the four Cottonwood Canyons resorts than they will be in the Park City area.
 
Park City will very likely be mostly manmade snow on groomers that early. You can ski that at home in NY. I'm getting to be a broken record on this, but eastern skiers should really save their western trips until at least January. UNLESS it's short notice trip to somewhere you know there is snow. Last year at this time that was Mammoth and Utah. This year it's Vancouver and Seattle. Why not go there instead?

Not much snow on the ground in Utah and little predicted for the next week. Same in California. More storms happening in the NW.
 
Thanks for the advice.

So history says, December is normally early to ride the best Utah snow...unless something like last year happens.

I think we are going to try to make alternate plans.

I would love to get back to Whister.
 
Scary Face":28eqvuji said:
Thanks for the advice.

So history says, December is normally early to ride the best Utah snow...unless something like last year happens.

Not necessarily. I'd be more accurate to say that Utah early season is typically feast or famine, with the Cottonwoods a higher probability of feast than Park City. Right now it's famine, but could become feast with a good storm series.
 
The Cottonwood Canyons have very good skiing (meaning much of the off-piste is open and adequately covered) about 50% of the time in mid-December. The steep stuff at Park City group/Snowbasin is probably less than 50/50 until after New Year's.

But the key point is that even in the Cottonwoods it's going to be pretty bad early-to-mid-December about 1/3 of the time. So why would one make an advance commitment to a slow time of year when you can score a good deal at the last minute?

The odds of BCC/LCC being bad by then have gone up a little (obvious because a few big early starts like last year have now been excluded). Same is true for the Sierra and the southern and western areas in Colorado.

The storms are continuing on a northern track. Places like Targhee, Jackson, Fernie, Steamboat, Vail, Winter Park are likely to have more snow than normal when they open. This already true at Lake Louise and Sunshine, though historically snow accumulation is quite gradual at those areas. Summit County in Colorado can be viewed the same way as Louise/Sunshine.

Whistler should be doing well, though not that much is open yet and it's clear that the storms have centered more on Washington/Oregon. I would expect Bachelor to be excellent, but its website is not being very informative yet, so look to see what the base is when they open this coming weekend. Bachelor is pretty much all skiable on a 50-inch base, and I'll be surprised if they don't have it by Dec. 1.

Next week is the right time to make those early December decisions. This coming weekend a lot of destination resorts open in preparation for Thanksgiving, and by how much is open at each area the picture will be more specific and less speculative than I have outlined above.
 
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