Baldy 12/26

Hello all. Just got back from Mt. Baldy. I don't write reports as well as Crocker, but I'll give it a shot.

Left Claremont around 7:25 AM. They had the roads fairly well sanded, but as I started going up the switchbacks, just as I had suspected, many folks had spun out. I navigated around them (although I have a RWD Tacoma , NOT 4x4). Rule #1 about driving in the snow: never lose momentum!

Got to the parking lot around 7:55 AM. Got my ticket, and headed up chairlift #1. All the way up, it appeared to be about 1 - 2 inches of soft snow on top of straight bulletproof hardpack. You all know how Baldy can get like that. I looked at the trees and could tell that there was little snow: the trees had that complete "ice" look and very little "snow" or even "heavy snow" look. I was hoping for the best....but was quite skeptical.

Got to the top, and , as always, typical Baldy, nothing was open (8:20 AM). Not even the beginner lift. An hour passed, and after hiking up #4, I took a few turns on the beginner run (around 9:30 AM). Went back into the Notch, and by then, a crowd was amassing.

10:00 NOTHING open. Starting to get restless. I couldn't be completely sure, but it sure seemed like the "6-12 inches" on top was bull s*it. Additionally, it was gusting up to about 25 mph, so any light freshies seemed to be blown away, exposing the "rain-hardened bullet-proof base."

I skied down to the beginner lift again, starting to get anxious, and sure enough, there's a long line at the bottom. Chairlift is supposed to be down for an hour. Welcome to Baldy. Hiked back up to the Notch, got my backpack, and took the lift back down. The runs down to the parking lot were completely iced-over (maybe 1 - 2 inch), so I ate my lunch going down chairlift #1.

I got down to the bottom and asked for a voucher. Kindly enough, I was given a voucher for another day.

If you were watching the temperature last night like I did, you saw it was 31 degrees at the notch almost all day. That doesn't amount to light snow, and it is surely not the 20 deg F temperature that dropped 4 feet of fresh last week. Maybe, just maybe, South Bowl had some good spots....not really sure, but I figured if I waited till they opened up 3, it might take 2 hours to get down the hill. Or worse, stuck on chairlift #1 (you know how Baldy can do that with high capacity).

I don't think I've ever seen as many people coming UP the hill when I left at 12:00. It was bumper to bumper coming UP the hill from parking lot all the way PAST the Village (4500 ft elevation). Unreal. I figured a cluster---- later in the day......

I think Big Bear might be the call tomorrow, or even Mt. High East (perhaps I'll try tomorrow).

I doubt Waterman was much better. Any thoughts???

P.S. I will upload pics soon.....
 
Appreciate the report. Garry Klassen was supposed to go up there today, but if it's what you say, maybe not. Given Waterman's max elevation only 200 feet higher than the Notch and shaded north exposure, I'd strongly discourage people from going there based upon this report.

With regard to Mt. High East the Canyon run and 2 runs that feed it are closed. Gullies like that tend to flood when it rains, so I'm guessing that's what happened.

I'd recommend Big Bear in this situation:
1) Less precipitation during this week's storms
2) Colder, so maybe slightly higher proportion of snow vs. rain
3) Most importantly, snowmaking (at much higher capacity than Mt. High) and grooming to restore the surfaces.

it can be a PITA to drive out there on a peak weekend. Not sure whether I'll do that or wait until next week. The more days for them to blow snow, the better it will get.
 
Sounds like the traffic might be hellacious tomorrow going to BIg Bear. As you know, things always die down after the first of the year. I was just looking at Big Bear outside (from Claremont) and it looks like there is a considerable amount of snow. It's beautiful. Mt San Antonio looks CAKED with snow (just looked outside) -- but it's deceiving! You can gauge from Ontario Peak that the snow level is actually quite high. As I was driving up, I noticed that there was no new snow below the parking lot. Never a good sign.........as you know, snow at the village means things will be good, but all the snow was from last week's storm.

Yes, Mt. Baldy (10K feet) might have gotten some snow, but it just wasn't happening IMO at the Notch.

I need to get some turns in--big time--and now I'm sorry I didn't just make the drive to Mammoth. However, I was hoping and praying to the gods that we might get 2 to 3 feet of cold snow out of last night's storm, but, it just didn't happen.

I think I'll just bear the crowds tomorrow and hit up Mt. High East for some groomers, then maybe subject myself to some youth and craziness at Mt High West (hopefully they lay down some inches up there tonight, as it's supposed to be very cold....)

Cheers,
JO
 
This doesn't surprise me given conditions a couple days ago.

I decided to take a raincheck (hah!) on riding today and caught up on much-needed sleep. I really wanted to hit Waterman, and I'm sure they could have used my business, but just couldn't justify it given the likely conditions.

I agree with Tony that Big Bear is probably the best bet right now. And please, if you're gonna drive up to/down from there on a holiday weekend, do yourself a favor and take the 38 rather than the front way.

It also looks like they'll be making snow at Mt High East today so that may be a good bet for the weekend as well. But get there VERY EARLY unless you feel like sitting in traffic on the 2 for hours.
 
Attached are some pics from 12/26. Some of the views are deceptive: looks good ,but lots of ICE.
 

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