Big Bear 1/1/2009

Tony Crocker

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I figured New Year's Day would be the best shot at manageable crowds/traffic to ski at Big Bear. I also thought it might be worth the trip with possibly less rain Christmas week to mess up surfaces.

The early traffic was minimal as I suspected, but arriving at 8:10AM still wasn't early enough to get on-site parking at Summit. I had forgotten about the people who stay in Big Bear for the holiday, and the town was full of those with the unusual amount of early season snow. I was somewhat correct as Snow Summit did not sell out 12/31 or 1/1 even though it did 12/27-30.

Snow Summit was in its usual meticulously groomed status, but with all runs open rather than the typical 2/3 to 3/4 when I'm there in early season, thanks again to the 4 feet of snow in December. It was all packed powder with a somewhat firm subsurface, but nothing I would call frozen granular. So I suspected there may not have been much rain, though one of the locals said it rained in town by the lake Christmas Eve. Some of the flat areas, particularly near the lifts, had hardpack that softened during the day, but this is typical SoCal melt/freeze.
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Here I am at the top of Snow Summit. Sorry admin, no more red jacket to kick around. :lol: Note eastern end of Big Bear Lake is partly frozen over. I skied the main top to bottom runs first thing, then stuck to chairs 10, 7 and 6 as it got busier. Total 13,500 when I took the shuttle bus to Bear Mt. at 1:30.

No surprise Bear with its awkward layout was a zoo at the base, where the 10 minutes for Access Express was the longest lift line of my day. I skied one run on Geronimo, but my real objective was to see if the off-piste canyons had enough natural snow to ski. I had only been in them in March 1993.
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Riding up the Bear Peak lift here's the view of Bow Canyon. There were "ski-at-your-own-risk" warning signs at the top, but it wasn't closed. Coverage was just adequate, not nearly as much as 1993, so it was best to stick to the most obvious and open fall lines.
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This was a nice open line, though one can see that everything funnels into the gully at the bottom. The gully goes on a long way and had a few tight spots and lots of blind corners
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The good news is that it was all shaded and chalky or packed powder. Clearly it did not rain at all above 7,500 feet or so around Big Bear. But you did have to ski deliberately to avoid obstacles, which were mostly partially buried logs rather than rocks. In 1993 there was spring snow and I remember 8-year-old Adam zipping fast through that gully as we know kids like to do.

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Patroller with the view of San Gorgonio from the top of Bear Peak.

The canyons on either side of Bear Peak force you all the way to the bottom, so I rode chair 2 to connect to Silver Mt. Silver has just one good snowmaking cruiser from the top, but there is also a steep natural run with a double fall line Quicksilver (now renamed The Wedge in deference to SoCal surf culture).
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View down Quicksilver, soft carvable snow. If the natural base holds up this can be an excellent mogul run. Last run on Silver was into Goldmine Canyon at skier's left. This was shorter but closed in more than Bow. I took a couple of pics but you can't see that much. There's also the more expansive Deer Canyon between Silver Mt. and Bear Peak, but I remember from 1993 that the gully at the bottom of that one is a real marathon and didn't want to commit to that in the lower snowpack.

I finally got in 2 runs on the usually overrun Bear Mt. Express after 4PM.
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View NE near sunset over Baldwin Lake before my last run. 8,600 at Bear, 21,900 for the day.

Now I had to deal with the crowds. I caught the 4:45 shuttle back to Summit, then a second shuttle down to auxiliary parking, arriving 5:25. I had dinner in Big Bear, hopefully letting traffic clear, but that was not to be. As I drove west along the south shore of the lake, eastbound traffic coming into town after 7PM was bumper to bumper. Then my direction ground to a crawl just short of the dam. An eastbound driver asked me about his traffic and warned me that westbound was congested all the way down the 330. So I bailed out, driving around the north shore, then out the back way to Redlands, emerging there at 9:20PM, still an hour of freeway from home.
 
Tony,

Just curious about your pics. in each of your last two TRs that I've read, the colors seem tilted toward yellow and green.
 
A no-traffic drive from my house (like New Year's morning) to Snow Summit is 2 hours. The evening trip was 3 1/2 hours drive time. It would have been about 45 minutes less if I had gone out 38 to Redlands directly (still contending with traffic in Big Bear Lake) instead of trying the front way and then reversing course. A clean drive via 38 is about 2 1/2.

I've had some concern with pics since the April accident and subsequent camera repair. I took it in last weekend and was told NOT to use the snow scenery setting, which tends to overexpose. I was also using an incorrect ISO setting. I think these pics are better than the earlier ones this season, but I'll have many more to compare after another month.
 
thanks for the photos Tony

whenever i make the trip up to big bear i either

a.) rent a place and leave in the morinng

b.) leave by 2:45 PM. you certainly pay the price to go from 3 pm to 4:30

back in the 80's i loved to night ski at Snow Valley and watch the headlights and taillights snaking all the way back to big bear. always been that way, always will..........

I think 5 years ago I went to Big Bear on Super Bowl Sunday. There were no accidents, and it took 6 hours to go from the Bear Mountain parking lot to Claremont.......
 
This is close to longest it's taken me to get home from Big Bear. Generally eating dinner up there is good enough to let traffic clear. Or use 38/Redlands if heading home immediately. Worst case scenario like this you need to do both. The biggest irritant to me is the 1/2 hour+ wasted by the shuttles to the auxiliary parking. If you leave around 4PM the line can last for 3 shuttles. On a busy weekend you need to target 8AM to get the parking at the ski area.
 
And how was the ice on the lower face of Waterman? Seriously, we'd like to see a TR detailing conditions. I do have interest in revisiting Waterman for the first time since 1995, but my judgment is that it would not be good now based on what I know from Baldy.
 
it was nasty, you could easily slide from the top of robyns tothe bottom, but wallbanger was worth going for, good moguls and only a couple of rocks between. they got new grooming equipment and they should definitely advertise it more as it is much improved from last year and much better than baldy. the runs on top were groomed to perfection. im not sure the trip was really worth a TR though
 
ski-the-face":3pkkjxff said:
im not sure the trip was really worth a TR though

Maybe just a quick one. I'd consider heading back up if things were okay since it's only 60 minutes from my apartment.
 
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