Castle Mtn, AB March 9 & 12, 2023

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This trip was the annual guys trip I go on. Castle is certainly a favorite 'little area that rocks' too.

As expected on too many pre-planned trips, 'you should have been here last week when we had the best conditions of the year'. It was not a bad by any means (~1" new on Mar 8th day), but also the 'least good' snow overall that I've skied at Castle, mostly because it's been absolutely beyond incredible on my prior trips. We still skied some pretty good snow to be sure, but on more limited aspects.

Thursday the 8th was fairly chilly starting off at -23C(-10F) but with the sun out all day it felt pleasant once past the early am. Most of us had flown in the evening before only getting to Pincher Creek after midnight, and with the temperatures there wasn't exactly a rush to the mtn. Getting on-hill by ~9:30. We tried a warm-up lap in Sheriff (main upper bowl to the right of the red chair(tamarack)). It was OK, but also a bit firm-ish/lumpy-ish to the lookers right side and softer to lookers left side of that bowl. My brother seemed only interested in the south chutes and we tried those next but thy were not good. At some point the sun and lightly softened them making for a mixed bag of chunky, soft, and firm-ish all at the same time with maybe an inch of new snow on top.
We never skied the south chutes again this trip.

It was clear that sun exposure was the key to everything so we tested the east faces on the North peak. where we began to find all the spots that still held 6" of leftovers or in some spots decently long lines of ~6" for several hundred verts at a time. I should mention here just how uncrowded it was on Thursday. There was almost no one skiing the steeper terrain. I think early they had a small lesson, but in the afternoon there was a literal one person occasionally on the beginner chair, etc... It was a bit repetitive, hitting only ~3 or 4 different named areas on the north mountain most of the day but the snow was quite good in the steep trees. We did manage to get a lap in kind of in huckleberry bowl and the pitch between tamarack bowl/showboat which also had the same mix of soft and untracked conditions. With only a stop for a snack at 2p.

Sunday the 12th was the 4th consecutive day of the trip and we had to drive over in the morning from Sparwood area. It was supposed to warm up per the forecast, but we ended up with sun at the base and a persistent cloudiness over the upper 3/4 which was a good thing. keeping things cool and fresh. There was probably a wild ~25F temperature difference between the upper and lower mtn. With the base just below the freezing mark and a decent chill up top. Castle had had 8cm (3") on Saturday's report but per the employees Saturday had crazy big crowds with 30+ minute lift lines and 30+ min lunch lines (on Sunday they were out of about half their lunch menu including simple things like fries). Sunday did have short lift lines. None longer than ~5-8 min and most of the time 2-3 or even zero.

We were late to start at ~10a and as we neared the top of the blue chair (sundance) we about panicked as the red chair was not running. After a brief talk with the patroller turning people away we learned it was mechanical in nature with a 30 min estimated re-start. So we went down under the blue chair and took the t-bar up which goes a bit higher than the blue chair by just enough for a higher traverse line. It turned out to be unnecessary as the red chair was running by the time we made it back up.

While certain parts of what we had skied several days earlier were skied off there were still pockets of soft and 6-8" to be found on the North peak areas as well as the huckleberry/showboat Red chair run. This time with tired legs we did take a 20-30 min lunch break but mostly kept to the 'bird in the hand' areas we knew were good instead of skiing areas that might or might not have been angled just enough to the S of E. Again being a bit of a broken record, but still varying over an expanded 6+ named trail width of of North peak. Some of the decision factors being the large vert on a potentially poor snow line once you've committed, and the long cycle times per lap that get chewed up too.

Frosty approach Mar 8
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Nearly empty parking right in front of the day lodge
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It would have been better if we tried closer to the chair sun aspect wise.
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One and done in the south chutes...
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Top of North peak side
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New Tele skier addition to the crew this year.
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Finally figuring out where there were deeper pockets...
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Unnamed, but near Tamarack Bowl late afternoon. Note the sun still hitting the aspect we skied on our first run. At some point in the days prior it had warmed just enough to make things not terrible, but not great in sunny/South-ish facing areas.
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Certainly an appropriately named bar with a low key vibe.
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MARCH 12th pics.

As Tony put in his report the Frank Slide between Castle and Fernie as we head back east to Castle...
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A bit overcast and even flurries up top
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It was hard to get a pic to show the mixed sunny/cloudy conditions
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These next few are on the pitch near Tamarack bowl
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It was OK, but also a bit firm-ish/lumpy-ish to the lookers right side and softer to lookers left side of that bowl. My brother seemed only interested in the south chutes and we tried those next but thy were not good. At some point the sun and lightly softened them making for a mixed bag of chunky, soft, and firm-ish all at the same time with maybe an inch of new snow on top.
We never skied the south chutes again this trip.

Is the sun already too strong by mid-March for snow preservation on steeper southern aspects? Or is this just a one-time weather blip?
 
Is the sun already too strong by mid-March for snow preservation on steeper southern aspects? Or is this just a one-time weather blip?
Jim Steenburgh, the Univ. of Utah snow guru, says in Utah Feb. 10 is the average date at which south exposure becomes an issue. Assuming that's for Utah's 40 degree latitude I calculated what the equivalent sun intensity date was at 50 degrees and came up with March 6. Jim is primarily a backcountry skier, and similar to cat skiing usually has to deal with a range of exposures. I do not recommend Canadian cat skiing after the first week of March for this reason, and it's not surprising that the prices start being discounted after that time.

My visits to Castle in most years have been during the last week of February due to the timing of my snowcat trips. I sure wonder about those south chutes due to the ugliness I've seen with those exposures in the very similar Lower Faces terrain at Jackson. But I have never seen sun damaged snow at Castle. I have seen variable and sometimes challenging conditions in those south exposures at Castle but they have been due to wind not sun.
 
None of the Gucci wind blown snow Tony talks of?
Nope. Not windy enough (maybe 10-15mph up top). The locals we rode lifts with were disappointed about that as well...

You have some nice pix despite your carrying on to the contrary. :eusa-whistle:
Yes, but... This is what my experience has been like in the past:

"only 6 inches"
6 inch report = waist deep

So going from shooting fish in a barrel to having to work for it and having roughly half the mountain being pretty blech..... It didn't suck by any means, yet was still the 'least good snow' I've had there. I've been super lucky to not get a wind closed upper mountain though too, which I know will eventually if I ski enough days there.

Is the sun already too strong by mid-March for snow preservation on steeper southern aspects? Or is this just a one-time weather blip?
I don't have quite enough time there to say, but it seemed like locals were a bit disappointed themselves in the south chutes not being soft wind sift at least...
 
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Just realized that several of the best pics never got uploaded to that thread from the March 2017 trip. No idea why...

Phenomenal day obviously. Especially for a 15cm snow report!
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Not windy enough (maybe 10-15mph up top). The locals we rode lifts with were disappointed about that as well...
The other benefit of wind, often observed at Mammoth in April, is that with wind the snow can sublimate into the air instead of melt/freezing on the surface. Thus winter snow surfaces may persist longer than one might expect based upon altitude/latitude/exposure/steepness/time of year.

Maybe we can even get James to Castle some time.
 
Both. I think the reporting is from top of the Haig lift which has trees. It would be impossible to measure accurately on the upper half of the main mountain with the wind.
 
Is it all wind-loading? Or under-reporting?
All the above kind of answer. There was about 6" in the parking lot. But that quickly went up the higher on the main mtn you got. Likely due to altitude, wind loading, perhaps 2-3 inches from ongoing snowfall, etc...

We certainly didn't expect it, and neither did the locals since almost none of them were skiing that day... it certainly doesn't always happen that way but my understanding is that there is occasionally a "Castle Surprise" like that.
 
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