Finally a change for Utah?

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The National Weather Service this afternoon":pyt1s88y said:
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SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SALT LAKE CITY UT
311 PM MST THU JAN 14 2010
UTZ001>016-019>021-517-518-WYZ021-151300-
CACHE VALLEY/UTAH PORTION-NORTHERN WASATCH FRONT-
SALT LAKE AND TOOELE VALLEYS-SOUTHERN WASATCH FRONT-
GREAT SALT LAKE DESERT AND MOUNTAINS-WASATCH MOUNTAIN VALLEYS-
WASATCH MOUNTAINS I-80 NORTH-WASATCH MOUNTAINS SOUTH OF I-80-
WESTERN UINTA MOUNTAINS-WASATCH PLATEAU/BOOK CLIFFS-
WESTERN UINTA BASIN-CASTLE COUNTRY-SAN RAFAEL SWELL-
SANPETE/SEVIER VALLEYS-WEST CENTRAL UTAH-SOUTHWEST UTAH-
UTAHS DIXIE AND ZION NATIONAL PARK-SOUTH CENTRAL UTAH-
GLEN CANYON RECREATION AREA/LAKE POWELL-CENTRAL MOUNTAINS-
SOUTHERN MOUNTAINS-SOUTHWEST WYOMING-
311 PM MST THU JAN 14 2010
...SIGNIFICANT WEATHER PATTERN CHANGE ON THE HORIZON...
AFTER A SEVERAL WEEK PERIOD CHARACTERIZED BY LONG STRETCHES OF
HIGH PRESSURE FOLLOWED BY THE PASSAGE OF WEAK STORM SYSTEMS...THE
WEATHER PATTERN APPEARS TO BE READY TO SHIFT LATE THIS WEEKEND.
THE WEATHER DURING THE NEXT FEW DAYS WILL REMAIN QUIET ACROSS THE
REGION AS ONE LAST AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE REGION.
HAZE AND FOG WILL PERSIST ACROSS THE VALLEYS OF NORTHERN UTAH AS
THE INVERSION STRENGTHENS THROUGH THE WEEKEND.
A SERIES OF MOIST PACIFIC STORM SYSTEMS WILL LIKELY IMPACT THE
REGION NEXT WEEK BEGINNING MONDAY AND LASTING THROUGH MUCH OF THE
WORK WEEK. THE HEAVIEST PRECIPITATION WILL POTENTIALLY AFFECT
SOUTHERN UTAH...THOUGH MUCH OF THE STATE WILL END UP RECEIVING A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PRECIPITATION WHEN TOTALS ARE TALLIED AT THE
END OF THE WEEK.
INCREASING SOUTHERLY WINDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PATTERN CHANGE WILL
BRING AN END TO THE FOG AND HAZE ACROSS NORTHERN UTAH EARLY NEXT
WEEK. LOCATIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN QUITE COLD OF LATE INCLUDING THE
UINTA BASIN AND NEAR GREEN RIVER WILL TREND WARMER. TEMPERATURES
IN THE VALLEYS WILL LIKELY SUPPORT A MIXTURE OF RAIN AND SNOW
DURING THE WEEK. PERIODS OF SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL MAY OCCUR ACROSS
THE MOUNTAINS OF UTAH...FOCUSING ACROSS THE SOUTH.
BE SURE TO MONITOR WEATHER FORECASTS THROUGH THE WEEKEND AS THE
PATTERN CHANGE APPROACHES FOR NEXT WEEK.
 
Really hope that pans out, but everything I've seen shows pretty minimal precip in the area around SLC. I'm no weather forecaster, but it seems that the general consensus is there's gonna be so much moisture to the south that it's gotta snow up north. But wasn't that story for the "storm" that just passed you guys (obviously with way less moisture to work with)?

Don't get me wrong, I'm thinking it's looking promising for next weekend, just cautiously optimistic at this point.
 
I'll be watching ...but I think I learned my lesson last year when I "read " about all the snow they got in March and April...too bad I skied in Jab and Feb. It was still better than anything I got back home...I just didn't get to visit the white room...all season.
 
socal":313xargz said:
Really hope that pans out, but everything I've seen shows pretty minimal precip in the area around SLC. I'm no weather forecaster, but it seems that the general consensus is there's gonna be so much moisture to the south that it's gotta snow up north. But wasn't that story for the "storm" that just passed you guys (obviously with way less moisture to work with)?

Don't get me wrong, I'm thinking it's looking promising for next weekend, just cautiously optimistic at this point.

I think the real point Admin is making here is that we'll finally see a full pattern shift in the west in general. This should allow us to get our "normal" flow of storms off the pacific. Next weeks storms will be mostly tracking south, but they are still looking like snowmakers for the north as well.

Im just happy to see a general pattern shift and will just hope for the storms to line up like they tend to.

M
 
This winter is awful for the West so far.

Generally, one region excels -- so you can change plans and get to it.

I think everyone is below average now.
 
And its too bad that the 2 feet that fell over here...was nowhere near any mountains. And "they" said this was going to be the worst/best winter in a decade.....still waiting...tap tap tap. :popcorn:
 
ChrisC":46it2hm6 said:
This winter is awful for the West so far.

Generally, one region excels -- so you can change plans and get to it.

I think everyone is below average now.

I was out at whistler earlier this month. They were doing just fine.
 
No. PNW and western Canada are still above average http://bestsnow.net/seas10.htm. But a week ago they had a lot of rain to 5000+ feet, so qualitatively we are certainly at a low point now. And the 3 regions that are way down (Front Range Colorado, Utah and US Northern Rockies) are pretty important in terms of destination skier visits.

So far it's the worst season since 1991-92 and there are quite a few analogies with that season:
1) Moderate El Nino, strengthening by mid-season.
2) A couple of regions had huge Novembers but were low thereafter.
3) Adequate snow far north and far south with a big drought "hole" in the middle.

The regions with the big November were different, and the drought hole is not exactly the same although it has quite a bit of overlap. How weird was 1991-92? Mt. Baldy had more snow than Snowbird!

There are several weather forecasters who like to predict based upon "analog seasons." I put little stock in this methodology but I'm surprised I haven't started to read about comparisons with 1991-92 yet.

From what I see the Wasatch will get a good shot through the first half next week but the late in the week storms may have a more concentrated southern direction.
 
Tony Crocker":n6by1gyz said:
So far it's the worst season since 1991-92

If you are going to do it, perhaps best season in a while to have a baby :-D Though I did hear Eldora advertise on the radio last week that they are over 100" of snowfall this year... Though the best steeps/trees are all closed everything else is open (including some single diamond natural snow trails). Anyway, I've seen worse specifically in Colo over the last dozen years. Though this one is pretty poor - Abasin only has 300 acres of 900 open - Yikes! usually they are debating opening Montezuma bowl by around now.
 
1991-92 was not particularly bad for Colorado. 2001-02 was very low, but it was the second half of the season that was super dry. So terrain got open somewhat normally. But the spring was cut short some and in May there were huge fires down by Colorado Springs. That was also the year of big spring fires in Arizona.

In terms of early season 1976-77 and 1980-81 were far worse in Colorado that this year. Having those 2 seasons so close together prompted most of the snowmaking infrastructure to be installed after 1981.
 
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