Great interview with Bob Peters from Jackson Hole.

[Patrick]

Everyone that has spend some time at Epic or/and Jackson has heard about him. James did a wonderful interview with the Jackson connaisseur.

http://www.nyskiblog.com/p/harvey-road- ... -td2425820

Bob is probably talking about Tony here.

This is something I’ve heard many times and is, in my humble opinion, woefully inaccurate and simplistic.

I was privileged to ski with Bob Peters for one afternoon with probably the one that he refers to as woefully inaccurate and simplistic. He questionned him about the negatives.

 

[Tony Crocker]

Bob Peters is unquestionably "The Man" when it comes to encyclopedic knowledge about Jackson Hole and great hospitality in sharing that knowledge. He is also providing local insight and perhaps some direct assistance to me and others who want to view the August 21, 2017 solar eclipse in Jackson. I too =D> james' great interview with Bob.

With regard to the "inaccurate and simplistic" debate, you can find the details and form your own opinions here:
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/382 ... late-march
http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/437 ... late-march
You will find other EpicSki posters who see it my way, including ChrisC who is as well traveled as I am. The simplest way for most skiers to assess Jackson vs. other areas in March is to ski Snowbird and compare Mineral Basin to the front side. Jackson's distribution of exposure over the entire mountain is similar to Mineral Basin's (mostly east and south with maybe 10% having a northeast tilt) and on average 2,000 feet lower.

Bob Peters, as one might suspect, is an elite level skier. He has a 100-month+ ski streak going and living where he does a lot of that is earned turns in the Teton backcountry. There is hardly any level of difficult terrain or snow that he can't handle. Vacation destination skiers have a different perspective. Jackson is remote and most vacations there are booked far in advance. The probability distribution of conditions in January is so vastly superior to that in March; why would the advance planning vacationer deliberately opt for the latter? I know, I know, "It's my spring break and I've always wanted to ski there." All I can say is that if you want to realize Jackson at its full potential, find a way to go a lot earlier, even Christmas week gives you much better odds.

I was privileged to ski with Bob Peters for one afternoon with probably the one that he refers to as woefully inaccurate and simplistic.

Even though Patrick has the skills to handle challenging/ugly March conditions in Jackson, I suspect he's glad he heeded my advice to ski Jackson in January.

 

[Patrick]

BWith regard to the "inaccurate and simplistic" debate, you can find the details and form your own opinions here.

Not saying that your right or wrong, but what Bob calls you guys. I mentioned it, as you insisted on questioning about that when we were skiing together.

I was privileged to ski with Bob Peters for one afternoon with probably the one that he refers to as woefully inaccurate and simplistic.

Even though Patrick has the skills to handle challenging/ugly March conditions in Jackson, I suspect he's glad he heeded my advice to ski Jackson in January.

Yes, the timing was great storm wise, although that 1st day at JH wasn't great, but...it wouldn't be the end of the World (for myself) if I would have gone in March. That trip was also strongly related to the work situation if you recall. A bit later and I wouldn't had the green light to go when I booked my vacation initially - it became a moot in that November. Well, it looks like I'm in the same situation this year. The feeling is pretty strong at work now, which will determine how much Spring Skiing I get.

 

[Mike Bernstein]

Have to agree with Tony here. Admin and I spent a few days in Jackson in March of an El Nino year. It hadn't snowed in a while and, while there were some spots of soft snow up in the North facing Bivouac Woods area, most of the rest of the mtn was refrozen or melted out/undermined garbage. Hobacks were closed the afternoon we arrived b/c the snow had been undermined and it was becoming real leg-breaker material. For the costs involved, especially when you don't have locals knowledge of the terrain, I would tend to avoid Jackson after mid-Feb going forward unless it's a last minute thing based on weather conditions.

 

[Patrick]

Have to agree with Tony here.

Again, not saying I disagree with him (on this point only - I have a reputation to live up to and like Marc, I don't get pay to agree with him). :lol:

 

[Tony Crocker]

2001 was not an El Nino, but it was a year when the storm track was far south most of the time. http://bestsnow.net/bldy2141.htm

Garry Klassen and I were at Jackson about 2 weeks after Mike and admin. We had a guide who took us into the Hobacks on our last run about 4PM. The snow had stabilized in afternoon shade and had decent spring conditions in that very narrow window of time. This is the kind of nuance that a local like Bob Peters could sniff out to maximize ski quality. But at this time of year in Mammoth, LCC, most of Colorado it's still winter, no insider expertise needed to find good snow most of the time.

 

[jamesdeluxe]

Bob is probably talking about Tony here.

This is something I’ve heard many times and is, in my humble opinion, woefully inaccurate and simplistic.

For the record, Tony's name was not brought up in our conversation. :-"