Heavenly, CA and NV 2/07/2009 and Kirkwood, CA 2/08/2009

tseeb

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I had scheduled Monday 2/9 off, in case conditions required skiing three days and I committed to going even if it was solo. But I’m also more than half done with a big remodel of the house we plan to live in for many years and could easily spend that day getting materials and meeting with sub-contractors. My wife considered going for the weekend, but decided it was too much work to bring dogs and herself to Tahoe for only two days. At one time she said she would go if our son went, but she decided against going Thursday night, then my son decided to go Friday night. I got up before 4 am, but could not get out of the house until 5 am after buying my son a $48 teen ticket on-line for Sunday at Kirkwood. I had three Heavenly tickets from the Johnny Mosley ski jump in SF in the fall.

We made the drive in 4 hours even though it was snowing heavily with chain control over Echo Summit. We went by the cabin to change and turn on some heat. It was snowing light to medium at Stateline and there was 2-4 inches new at lake level. We got one of the last parking spaces near the tram and were going up by 9:30. Even though winds were fairly strong from the East, Heavenly was running all the lifts over the top. We took three different routes down Canyon Chair, waiting for the wind to die down before going up Sky, and found deep snow on skier’s right of some runs where the wind had piled it up. We also found some deeper powder in middle of lower High Roller, where we also found a rock or two in the steep trees to the right of the bottom. Sky Canyon also had a good 6 inches new. We took one run down Sky, Liz’s to Ellie’s swing and then in the trees to skier’s left of the chair. The new snow was good, but base was marginal, so I was finding a rock or two on each run.

I lost my son during our run on Sky, where by 10:30 or 11 crowds were building, mostly because lift was stopping a lot. We had made contact by cell, but I thought he was ahead of me in singles line when he was behind me. I headed for Nevada and took a high route into Milky Way Bowl. Visibility was not very good and, until you got closer to the trees, the snow was affected by the east wind. I headed into Mott’s Canyon and didn’t find that good of snow my first run where I came down between Widowmaker and Snake Eyes. There was a large crowd at the bottom, due to chair not running and/or not running fast due to maintenance. Next run I headed further right to the Y where I found almost a foot of lightly skied dry powder. The runout to the chair in the trees was especially good and line at the bottom was gone. I connected with my son, who was boarding Mott’s and we ended up going down once more. After a short break at East Peak Lodge, where the expansion was no match for the crowds trying to get out of the storm, we went up Dipper Chair and took Dipper Woods to the ridge between Motts and Killibrew. Killebrew was roped off. I was impressed that my 17 year-old on a board could handle the very exposed ridgeline to the Y where snow was still good. I took him into some very steep and deep under Rocky Point. We did Motts once more, for a total of 5 runs there before exiting to Dipper Chair and California Trail. I thought I lost him again, but after waiting a minute or two, he came along and I led him down Maggie’s Canyon which held good powder and avoids any flats getting back to Sky Chair,

We thought about going up Powder Bowl, but crowds pushed us to Groove where he did the terrain park a few times while I went down advanced Roundabout. I found some good powder and another rock or two cutting the corners. On lower Gunbarrel, there was an inch or two new on top of a groomed surface. I went up Gunbarrel chair, then stayed skier’s left where I found some untracked by getting close to the trees. I cut over to the Face where the left side also had good snow, but I hit one rock hard. 16 runs, 17,5K vertical No pictures, except for cell phone, as camera was left at the cabin.

Sunday is Kirkwood, then home. It only snowed lightly overnight with Kirkwood reporting 1-2” overnight and 9-12” from the last two day so I’ll let my son sleep a little before feeding him and closing up the cabin. Heavenly reports 7-10” from last two days.
 
Thanks for the conditions report. I'm flying into Reno on Wed, though the group I'm with is now talking about only one day at Heavenly. But then we'll see just how many really want to drive an hour to Kirkwood or Squaw when the time comes to actually do so.
 
It should be better by Wed. although flying into Reno could be interesting. The early morning blue skies at Tahoe were gone by the time we left So. Shore at 9 this morning. It snowed lightly at Kirkwood during the day with on and off poor visibilty on top. They are hoping for 12-18" by Monday and it could happen, judging by the rain I hit for the last hour of my drive home. Then it's supposed to get cold between storms with a chance of snow predicted every day for a week beginning on Wed.
 
I see 7-10" new at the Heav this am and 18-24" at Kirkwood. Looking like Kirkwood might be the place to be this trip. And if it is cold, dry snow this week, maybe the chain laws won't come out [-o< (not to mention better pow skiing too).
 
Kirkwood does say 18-24" which makes me sorry that I had to take my son back to the Bay Area for school, but my legs are pretty tired from two good days. The Carson Spur was closed for a while this morning and Kirkwood was only running chairs one and nine (both beginners only) and ten (The Reut) as of 10 am I assume for avalanche control. At 11:45, the web cam looks like it's still snowing and shows a good crowd at now open Cornice chair.

CA is way stricter than CO on chain control. You should be prepared for chains required or 4WD with snow tires to Kirkwood and Mt. Rose for most of the next week.
 
tseeb":229h2bbb said:
CA is way more stricter than CO on chain control. You should be prepared for chains required or 4WD with snow tires to Kirkwood and Mt. Rose for most of the next week.

Colo basically doesn't have chain control for passenger cars. Only for commercial vehicles down to 16 passenger van size. If things get bad enough that SUV's & cars are causing the problems then they just shut the road down - which does happen on occasion, but not very frequently. It's interesting because we do have signs on a number of roads about having chains (even the Eldora shelf road has one), but never seen anyone use chains or get ticketed for not having them (passenger vehicles).

I'm somewhat hopeful on no chains on our ski days as the forecasts I see say 1-2 feet during Wed and then only 2-4" per day after that. It's been something like 16 years since I left Tahoe (used to work for Heavenly once upon a time). Never been back since then either, should be interesting.
 
Sunday morning was blue sky early at sunrise, but it was already clouding up by 9 am when we left So. Tahoe after getting my son up, fed, packed, then picking up and closing up the cabin. It took almost an hour to Kirkwood due to 40-50 mph traffic until Luther Pass. While my son was using the facilities, I took a warm up on Hole-N-Wall where we parked. I gave him his ticket and offered to take pictures of him in the Terrain Park, but he wasn’t interested so I headed to Cornice. I took a warm-up on Look Out Janet which I usually avoid as it gets bumped and cliffed out, but it must have been groomed overnight and seemed to me like great packed powder although others thought it was firm. Next run I headed left off the chair and hiked to where I could drop off the cornice without too much exposure to rocks below. There were a lot of good lines between Lost Cabin and Cliff Chute so I came down it once more before heading to The Wall.

Visibility was poor at the top of The Wall, but once you got in a couple of turns, past where boarders were scraping off all the snow, I found good lightly packed powder skiers right to above The Reut and onto Conestoga. Next run I headed over to the Notch Chute where I found a lot of unpacked snow by staying high on skiers right until I got to where the chute narrowed. I peaked over towards All The Way and got out my camera to late too catch a young lady snowboarder tumble over some rocks on a face that I learned to avoid on New Year’s Day. After sharing a sandwich with my son who was enjoying the terrain park on Hole-N-Wall, I took videos of him twice going through the two parks. I head back up Cornice dropped off the Cornice for a third time and turned quick enough to make it through a funnel between rocks and found great snow below that by staying closer to trees than people had the day before.

I’d missed the opening of the surface lift to Covered Wagon on 1/16, so I headed to the backside via The Wall to try it out. I’d heard the visibility was bad, but was surprised to see it was roped off going towards the left where the new lift is located. Instead, came down the ridge between the chair and Hully Gully and again found very lightly packed powder that was great fun to kick up on the moderate angle. Next run I found similar snow to skier’s left of Cold Shoulder and almost cut too low to hit Thunder Saddle where blasted I down one of the Man Chutes. I went up The Wall one more time, when I should have headed to Cornice as my son got there very early for our 3:20 meeting and I was late, but the snow was too good to pass up. I took him down Olympic and wanted to show him a route to skier’s right that I followed a lady down earlier, but he went left where there was also good snow. He missed the entrance to the terrain park so I couldn’t take any more pictures as I quit a 3:45 totaling 18 runs/21K vertical.

The final number for Monday was 24-36” in the last 24 hours at Kirkwood. But besides getting my son back to school, I ended up with a 9 am appt. with a tile guy, a 12:30 appt. with a guy who I will probably have do a wrought iron rail for our balcony, a 3:30 appt. with a garage door guy who will install tomorrow, plus spent some time unpacking, picking up at the re-model site and talking to my general contractor and window and door supplier.
 

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tseeb":2cz68553 said:
CA is way more stricter than CO on chain control. You should be prepared for chains required or 4WD with snow tires to Kirkwood and Mt. Rose for most of the next week.
tseeb is 100% right about this.

I'm somewhat hopeful on no chains on our ski days as the forecasts I see say 1-2 feet during Wed and then only 2-4" per day after that.
I would take that weather forecast as a virtual certainty that chain control will be in effect most of the week. ESMC should rent a 4WD. Buying and using chains for a rental car is likely to be a large PITA. Do NOT preclude potential opportunities for exceptional powder days at Kirkwood.
 
Kirkwood reports Thurs. 2/12 another 8-10" new and will probably get more as it rained hard in San Jose overnight. The seven day total is 47-68" and the season total is 205-238, although I thought I saw 251" at the high end earlier this morning. I don't think I have seen 88 without chain control since Sunday night. I plan to be there next Wed. and Fri, days 6 and 7 on my pass and days 9 and 11 overall. I will probably go to Heavenly next Thurs. since I still have one ticket and would only have to drive a mile or two each way from the cabin vs. 35 miles to Kirkwood. If anyone is going to be around and wants to try meeting at Chair 11 at 10 am on either of those days or to talk me into going to Kirkwood on Thursday, let me know.
 
3 excellent pow days in a row. Squaw, heavenly & kirkwood in that order from 12th-14th. Great snow each day. Wish I could stay for the next big storm moving in on Sun. TR later-only have a BB with me.
 
the past 3 weeks at kirkwood have seen a 3ft storm, multiple days of sun with temps hitting close to 60deg, and now 100in in the past week with knee deep everywhere and waist deep in spots. morning pow can be a bit heavy by afternoon, but weekdays still have almost fresh areas into the afternoon. right now its nuking with high winds. tseeb,pm me if you will be here thurs \:D/
 
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