Jackson, WY & Yellowstone & Grand Teton Nat'l Parks 8/2013

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Mrs. Admin and I decided to escape the heat of the Salt Lake Valley for a few days and head north for five hours to the Jackson, Wyo. area to camp and visit Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks for a nearly no-cost miniature vacation. While I've been in Jackson once in the past decade I haven't visited Yellowstone since I was six years old, so I was long overdue to return, and as Mrs. Admin has been out of town for most of the summer it would be good to do something together now that she's finally home again. The area offers enough diversity that we could have easily spent a full week there and never been bored for a second.

In sum we had a wonderful four days, albeit with a mixed bag of weather. Daily highs were in the upper 70s and lows in the mid 40s, and each afternoon showers and thunderstorms moved into the area despite a prediction of only 20% probability, sometimes moving through quickly but other times continuing with a drizzle that lasted for many hours well into the overnight. We were therefore grateful to be camping in the bed of the truck and not in a tent, as it would've been a far wetter experience. Wildlife spotted this trip included bison, elk, moose, deer, three bald eagles including one spotted from camp, numerous ospreys, a great blue heron and more. Alas, no bears!

We left Salt Lake shortly after noon on Wednesday and arrived in the Jackson area around dinner time, just as the daily showers began to fire up. We planned to camp in the Gros Ventre Mountains northeast of town, and shortly after leaving U.S. 89 we happened upon a herd of wild bison grazing along the Gros Ventre Road southwest of the tiny hamlet of Kelly.

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Wild bison graze beneath the Tetons along the Gros Ventre Road

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Tourists observe a moose along the Gros Ventre River

The Gros Ventre Corridor turned out to be an ideal location to camp, less than an hour out of downtown Jackson and convenient for accessing the national parks. By this time in August activity in the area is starting to wind down as many kids are now returning to school, so while there was one other couple at the far end of the Red Hills backcountry camping area the first night, we had the whole place to ourselves on the second night. The third night was a Friday so there were a couple of others camped there, but the area is adequately dispersed such that we really didn't notice our neighbors. Our camp was right along the left bank of the Gros Ventre River, so we were serenaded each night by sound of water tumbling through the rocks, and we had a ready source of water to wash away smells that would attract the region's black and grizzly bears to our camp. We grilled rib eye steaks our first night, accompanied by mashed potatoes and caesar salad with anchovies washed down by adequate quantities of merlot, before retiring to bed sometime after midnight.

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Setup of camp has just been completed in a drizzle

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Lower Slide Lake was formed in 1925 when a massive landslide -- literally a whole mountainside -- came crashing down and formed a natural dam in the Gros Ventre River.

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The Grand Teton from the Gros Ventre Valley

We slept in each morning until 9 or 9:30, slowly making our way to each day's destinations. On Thursday morning, following a camp breakfast of pancakes and bacon it was time for a road tour through the national parks. We entered Grand Teton at the Moran Junction gate, gassed up the truck in Colter Bay and headed north along the shoreline of Jackson Lake to the south entrance of Yellowstone.

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Colter Bay on Jackson Lake

Continuing north, our first stop was at the Geyser Basin in West Thumb to view the collection of geysers, vents and mud pots lining the west shore of Yellowstone Lake.

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West Thumb Geyser Basin in Yellowstone National Park

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West Thumb Geyser Basin in Yellowstone National Park

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West Thumb Geyser Basin in Yellowstone National Park

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One geyser has actually formed its own tiny island within Yellowstone Lake

From there we continued north, following the northwest shoreline of the lake through Bridge Bay and Lake Village. We had hoped to stop at the Mud Volcano, but the Alum wildfire lining the road was being allowed to burn unchecked and park officials weren't allowing anyone to stop along a six-mile stretch of the Grand Loop Road north of Lake Village. Our destination was Upper and Lower Yellowstone Falls in the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone, but with our luck we of course arrived just as the daily thunderstorm did, too. After shooting photos of Lower Falls from Artist Point in steady rainfall I stopped the truck again at Uncle Tom's Point. Mrs. Admin opted to stay dry in the vehicle as I negotiated the numerous switchbacks and 328 metal stairs bolted to the cliffs to descend three-quarters of the way into the canyon to shoot photos of the Lower Falls, up close and personal.

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Yellowstone Lower Falls from Artist Point

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Yellowstone Lower Falls from Artist Point

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Some of the 328 stairs that form the Uncle Tom's Trail

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Yellowstone Lower Falls from the end of the Uncle Tom's Trail

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Some of the 328 stairs that form the Uncle Tom's Trail

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The historical context of the Uncle Tom's Trail

We headed back to our temporary home by completing a counter-clockwise loop through Norris and Madison, passing numerous geothermal features along the Gibbon and Firehole Rivers en route to the requisite stop at Old Faithful. Our timing here, too, was somewhat disappointing as we arrived just as the geyser's latest eruption was drawing to a close. By the time we reached a close viewing position and I turned on my camera the show was over, and we lacked the time to wait around for the next eruption.

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Old Faithful

We returned to camp via the Teton Park Road, hugging the foot of the mountains past the Jackson Lake Dam and Jenny Lake, arriving back at camp just after dark. After a dinner of chicken cacciatore served over rice on our only dry night in camp, it was again after midnight before we made it to bed.

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Sunset over Jackson Lake

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Mount Moran and the Grand Teton across Jackson Lake

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Looking westward from our camp along the Gros Ventre River on Friday morning toward the Red Hills

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Our camp along the Gros Ventre River on Friday morning

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One of the insects co-habitating our camp

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The Red Hills along the Gros Ventre Road

Friday was our "action day." Skidog's high school friend Stackhouse is the lead guide for Mad River Boat Tours out of Jackson, and is spending his 13th summer guiding rafters down the whitewater of the Snake River Gorge between Hoback and Alpine Junction. We hadn't planned to raft the river this trip, but en route to Jackson on Wednesday we had stopped by the overlook to watch rafters, kayakers and paddleboarders negotiate Big Kahuna, the stretch's biggest rapid during times of low water flow, and suddenly Mrs. Admin wanted to go rafting. I got a hold of Stackhouse, with whom Skidog, Telejon and I had rafted in 2008, and we set up a run through the gorge for Friday afternoon. En route to the Mad River boathouse we drove through Teton Village and the base area of Jackson Hole Mountain Resort and had an impromptu picnic on the gravel bars of the Snake River between Wilson and Jackson. Because I hadn't planned to be on the river I didn't bring any gear to keep electronics dry, so I regret that I have no personal photos from our Snake River trip.

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The Gros Ventre Valley and the Tetons beyond

The weather threatened while we were on the river, but it didn't unleash until we got back to Jackson. And unleash it did! The thunderstorm's torrential downpour was followed by a strong and steady drizzle that lasted until well after we went to bed around midnight. Temperatures immediately dropped by 20 degrees. We first sought shelter in Albertson's, grabbing a latte and some sushi as we waited for the rain to abate, but when it became apparent that the rainfall wouldn't relent we arrived back in camp right as darkness set in over the Gros Ventre River valley. I quickly stashed what I needed into the bed of the truck and cooked our rotisserie chicken and macaroni & cheese on the tailgate from within the vehicle. After a few shots of whiskey we fell asleep with the rainfall still hitting the roof of the camper.

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Making dinner from the back of the truck on a wet night in camp

On Saturday morning we set everything out to dry before finally packing up camp for good and heading back into Grand Teton National Park. We arrived at the Visitor's Center at Moose Junction just as Saturday's first storm cell made its way over the Tetons. Optimistic that the cell would move through, we made our way north to Jenny Lake just as it did, with wisps of cloud holding tight over the summits long after the storm itself had departed the area. Despite the crowds at South Jenny Lake we were able to walk a short distance to a small peninsula of land just west of the boat dock, and enjoyed a picnic in total solitude as families paddled rental canoes and kayaks, and the boat shuttle criss-crossed the lake to carry hikers to the trailhead at Inspiration Point.

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The Grand Teton is enshrouded in clouds following a thunderstorm. The visible peak is 12,325-foot Teewinot Mountain.

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11,144-foot Rockchuck Peak and Jenny Lake

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Cascade Canyon and Jenny Lake

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The Jenny Lake boat shuttle

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Mrs. Admin rock-hops along Cottonwood Creek

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With Mrs. Admin at South Jenny Lake

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Cottonwood Creek

Before departing for home we spent our only time this trip wandering around downtown Jackson. We grabbed a coffee at Jackson Hole Roasters and took the essential photos of the elk antler arches in the park downtown, while Mrs. Admin purchased a souvenir T-shirt.

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One of the elk antler arches in the center of Jackson

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The slopes of Snow King ski area above the town of Jackson

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Jackson Hole Playhouse

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Jackson Hole Playhouse

We hit the road around 4:30 p.m., and as I have never followed the route to Salt Lake via Teton Pass and Idaho Falls we opted to try that option.

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Jackson Hole from Teton Pass

Severe weather moved through again, and we negotiated the Swan Valley as it was under an active tornado warning before strong winds and driving sheets of rain buffeted the truck all the way to Idaho Falls. From there it was a simple, straight and uneventful trip southbound on I-15 back to Salt Lake City.
 
You got lucky -- everyone knows that planning a destination visit to Jackson Hole after early February is foolish.
 
jamesdeluxe":2q6igu77 said:
You got lucky -- everyone knows that planning a destination visit to Jackson Hole after early February is foolish.
That's pretty damned funny James!!!
 
Another trip that I intend to do soon-ish. I am beginning to find the off-season posts invaluable. I mean, "first tracks" are nice and all but before long they sort of blend together :)

Admin, here is my First World problem: I will have a visitor for the next month who has barely done any of our finest hiking right here. She and I concentrated on Southern Utah in May-June and most of the higher trails here were not yet ready. How adamant would you be about making this drive instead of staying put? Also, if one chose to do the camping out of the back of the truck thing minus the cooking, is that doable, in terms of finding a restaurant close-by? Also, my compliments on your legs :)
 
Evren":1xlm88yb said:
Also, if one chose to do the camping out of the back of the truck thing minus the cooking, is that doable, in terms of finding a restaurant close-by?
If I'm guessing correctly, where Admin was truck camping is about a 15 minute drive to the middle of Jackson and dozens of fine to spectacular restaurants.
 
I agree with MarcC about excellent dining in Jackson. However, I think admin's one day marathon in Yellowstone was crazy. It's a big place, better to concentrate on a sector or two if your time is limited. If you or your guest have never been there before you'll want several days. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11054 Also, in September it might not be that hard to score a campsite(s) inside Yellowstone, which will cut down your driving a lot. You won't have the gourmet options of Jackson inside Yellowstone, but there are dining rooms and cafeterias at all the major tourist centers.

Coming from SLC, my recommendation would be to divide your time 2/3 to Yellowstone, 1/3 to Jackson/Grand Teton, which is what I did on my family trip in 1995.
 
Tony Crocker":1gywyhya said:
Coming from SLC, my recommendation would be to divide your time 2/3 to Yellowstone, 1/3 to Jackson/Grand Teton, ...
It really depends on what you want out of your trip. For example, while the hiking in Yellowstone is beautiful and the geothermal features make it one of the unique places in the world, if you prefer the high and wild, the hikes and scrambles in the Tetons are nothing short of world class spectacular. Hike thru Garnet or Death canyons or scramble up to the Lower Saddle on the Grand to see what I mean. Even Teewinot can be summited without rope provided you're very confident moving over 4th class* terrain unbelayed.

*: from a technical climbing standpoint, trivially easy, but a slip can still mean a fall of hundreds of feet.

http://www.summitpost.org/teewinot-mountain/151742
 
Thanks for those replies. Let me open up the question a bit.

We both prefer day hikes, as opposed to roadside scenic spots. For example, at Bryce, what was most satisfying were the hikes inside the canyon and not the view from the rim. Something like Angels' Landing, Narrows, Horsethief Canyon or even Delicate Arch worked perfectly: a little hiking with a pay-off. I've avoided Grand Canyon partly for this reason: perceiving the choice as being between gazing at the chasm with Japanese tourists or a multi-day backpacking trip.

Have not researched these two parks but... The impression I get from posts here is that they also emphasize a similar duality: Either park by the scenic spot or go off into the wild for a multi-day trip. We will do the multi-day backpack trips but not this time.

Is this an accurate assessment?

As for dining, Jackson seems a little kitschy compared to Park City. More interesting would be something like Hell's Backbone Grill or Kiva Koffeehouse in Southern Utah. In a natural setting and under-stated. Failing that, a sandwich shop will do just fine.

I know, I know. There are children in Chicago who'd love to go on a trip like this. But I lucked into posh slopeside digs at Deer Valley until ski season, autumn colors are almost upon us, I know the area well yet there are so many hikes I haven't done. I'm a little disinclined to leave all that to see Old Faithful blow its load.

On a tangent, what intrigues me more is a road-trip along this route:
Telluride -> Ouray -> Million Dollar Hwy -> Silverton -> Durango -> Monument Valley -> Grand Canyon(!) -> Antelope, Zebra and No Name Slot Canyons

Maybe I just have an aversion to Yellowstone because it is so iconic... but realize that it must be iconic for a reason.
 
The thermal features at Yellowstone are iconic. That's why most of them are road accessible. The Fairy Falls/Imperial Geyser hike was an example of
a little hiking with a pay-off.
The all day 11 mile Washburn Spur hike Adam and I did in 1995 was varied, impressive and very solitary for the middle 8 miles of it. But it's a one-way and there's no public shuttle for hikers as in Glacier or Zion. I have some understanding of admin's trip because Yellowstone is not his kind of place in terms of number of people and too easy road accessibility. One point in its favor is that crowds will be way down in September, though the days will be shorter and it might be cold sometimes. Overall, as MarcC noted you can put more hiking emphasis on the Grand Teton part of the trip, where I've only done a very little. More of that coming in 2017: http://xjubier.free.fr/en/site_pages/so ... pFull.html

My impression with Liz in Feb. 2012 was that Jackson is in Park City's league for fine dining. The Wort Hotel and Snake River Grill impressed us most. For a more casual meal Bubba's BBQ is a local institution.

On a tangent, what intrigues me more is a road-trip along this route:
Telluride -> Ouray -> Million Dollar Hwy -> Silverton -> Durango -> Monument Valley -> Grand Canyon(!) -> Antelope, Zebra and No Name Slot Canyons
As you get toward October, weather would favor this trip vs. Yellowstone. It's all good, probably best to ask your guest her preference. A day hike halfway down the Grand Canyon is not unreasonable. In April or October all the way down and back is doable if you know you're up to hiking ~5,000 vertical.
 
Evren":2n1jxwac said:
Have not researched these two parks but... The impression I get from posts here is that they also emphasize a similar duality: Either park by the scenic spot or go off into the wild for a multi-day trip. We will do the multi-day backpack trips but not this time.

Is this an accurate assessment?
Absolutely not. There are tons of single-day hikes in the Tetons - the variables are how many miles and how much elevation gain.
There are many hiking loops of various lengths originating at Old Faithful Lodge in the heart of Yellowstone.

There are some great guidebooks at REI.

Evren":2n1jxwac said:
As for dining, Jackson seems a little kitschy compared to Park City.
Also absolutely incorrect. Besides the Snake River Grill we've also had fantastic Peruvian, great sushi, and excellent Mexican/Southwestern. I, too, put it on a par with Park City.

Evren":2n1jxwac said:
I'm a little disinclined to leave all that to see Old Faithful blow its load.
Are you really that narrow-minded?

Evren":2n1jxwac said:
Maybe I just have an aversion to Yellowstone because it is so iconic... but realize that it must be iconic for a reason.
Apparently so.
 
Evren":14kmkhrs said:
Admin, here is my First World problem: I will have a visitor for the next month who has barely done any of our finest hiking right here. She and I concentrated on Southern Utah in May-June and most of the higher trails here were not yet ready. How adamant would you be about making this drive instead of staying put?

Frankly, I love the Jackson area and GTNP, and highly recommend the trip for the stunning scenery, no matter how it's accessed. I'm less enthused regarding Yellowstone but if you're in the area you're doing yourself a disservice if you don't see at least part of it. Once again Mr. Crocker is making some misguided assumptions about my motives. In my case I limited our time in Yellowstone to a one-day road tour because I wanted to show Mrs. Admin some of the park's geothermal features and a single day hike would've spent the entire time I was able to allocate to Yellowstone. I didn't allocate more than one day because, well...Mrs. Admin is Mrs. Admin. To know her is to understand my predicament. :wink:

Evren":14kmkhrs said:
Also, if one chose to do the camping out of the back of the truck thing minus the cooking, is that doable, in terms of finding a restaurant close-by?

Marc_C underestimated the drive time from our campsite to town -- it was more on the order of an hour, half of which was spent driving the last 10 miles on dirt to camp. The Gros Ventre Road is paved in varying degrees of quality and disrepair up to Lower Slide Lake, and while it's graded dirt beyond there it's heavily washboarded in places and there are ample deer to hit in the dark or at dusk.

Evren":14kmkhrs said:
Also, my compliments on your legs :)

:lol:
 
admin":314ahdh0 said:
To know her is to understand my predicament.
She doesn't want more than one day in Yellowstone, but she's OK with camping out an hour from civilization in the rain for 3 nights?
 
Tony Crocker":3uces18o said:
admin":3uces18o said:
To know her is to understand my predicament.
She doesn't want more than one day in Yellowstone, but she's OK with camping out an hour from civilization in the rain for 3 nights?

Yup. She shies away from developed "wilderness" experiences, yet she lacks the stamina to truly get away from it all under her own power

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Admin":2egxkfcj said:
Marc_C underestimated the drive time from our campsite to town -- it was more on the order of an hour, half of which was spent driving the last 10 miles on dirt to camp. The Gros Ventre Road is paved in varying degrees of quality and disrepair up to Lower Slide Lake, and while it's graded dirt beyond there it's heavily washboarded in places and there are ample deer to hit in the dark or at dusk.
How far you go out the GV Road is of course the major variable. If you camp in the NFS campground which acts as overflow for the southern end of GTNP, you can make it to town in ~15-25 minutes.
 
Admin":edvzft44 said:
Yup. She shies away from developed "wilderness" experiences,...
Um, oxymoron.
And while wilderness experiences are great, there's something to be said for the running water and bathrooms (or even if it's only pit toilets) of a developed NFS campground. They also minimize the overall impact in highly popular areas by limiting the damage radius. There's also the relative safety of your gear if you want to leave a camp set up and unattended during the day.
 
Tony, thanks for those useful suggestions.

Marc_C, why can't you be more like Tony and less like the lovable uncle who gets drunk at Christmas?

Are you really that narrow-minded?

Nah, just misogynistic.

I love the Jackson area and GTNP, and highly recommend the trip for the stunning scenery, no matter how it's accessed.

Fair dinkum.
 
Evren":34kihpup said:
Marc_C, why can't you be more like Tony and less like the lovable uncle who gets drunk at Christmas?
The same reason that you cannot resist making dubious statements such as not liking Yellowstone because "it's so iconic".
 
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