K3 Snowcat, B.C., Jan. 20-21, 2025

Tony Crocker

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We are here for two days. K3 was started in 2007 and was exclusively a day operation until about 3 years ago. It's not that well known yet for its lodge operation as there are only 6 of us staying in South Park Lodge now. In my 90+ days of cat skiing I have never skied with this much less than a full cat. We are skiing with 4 snowboarders, a local couple from Vernon and a father and son from Sydney, Australia. FYI sbooker, father's name is Simon!

In other threads we have discussed the season in B.C. The Selkirks/Monashees had a very strong start in November/early December, but as we know January has been lean. Here at K3 the most recent decent snowfall was 10-15 inches two weeks ago plus maybe a couple of inches the weekend before last. And as also discussed there was a warm full sun day a week ago and the high winds on Thursday.

In the above context today was decent skiing and better than most would expect. However, I wasn't that surprised because K3's tenure is adjacent to Mustang, where i had an impressive record of consistency over 10 seasons. The "settled powder" was not deep, nor was it consistent top to bottom of any single run. The steepest terrain tended to be smooth windpack not unlike Mammoth.

Weather was high overcast with several sunny breaks. This allowed us to get up to the high point of K3's tenure at 7,400 feet.
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The run behind Liz, Bob's, was partial south facing but snow was mostly wind packed powder.

Lower down below tree line was more powdery.
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Temperatures were around 10F, which is quite comfortable with no wind and going uphill in an enclosed snowcat. We were fortunate to get K3's first ski day of the season in their Dark Side sector. View over the edge of Euphoria:
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Skiing that upper bowl:
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Lower part of Euphoria:
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Euphoria was reminiscent of the "Roman" runs at Mustang and about 2,000 vertical before a long and somewhat tedious runout. WIth a deeper snowpack they can get the cat in for a closer pickup.

With the lengthy turnaround logistics, each of the 3 cats (there is a second now lodge plus one cat of day skiers) got one run in Euphoria.

The next run Baker's Dozen started with a nice tree shot but I strayed skier's right into some ugly sun crust and had two ski release crashes.

Scoop and Bella had similar topography to Euphoria but were short with a higher proportion of windpack.

Next was The Coombe during a sunny break.
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Last run of the day was Sunset, a cut block with the beginnings of new growth in the the afternoon sun. Our guide Shannon had not been there for awhile and was unsure of snow conditions. But it was mellow intermediate pitch and nearly all settled powder.

Total vertical for the day was 10,800, maybe a little over half powder. Some of the runouts through choppy snow were strenuous, so we still got a workout.

We have had excellent dinners and enjoyed the friendly and helpful staff. At a new lodge operation you are not getting the fancy amenities like spa, sauna or massages though. And FYI they do not have powder ski rentals. But as noted before there was the big plus of skiing in a group of only 6 customers.
 
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What’s your take on efficiency + vertical vs. Mustang? Obviously small sample size, but I’m headed to interior BC the first week of February and K3 has lodge availability that week. I don’t think I’d pay full price, but perhaps they’ll negotiate at the last minute if they haven’t sold the seats…
 
What’s your take on efficiency + vertical vs. Mustang?
No one can touch Mustang for efficiency and vertical on a consistent basis. My 31 days there averaged 16K vertical. I've had a few days at Island Lake of 17K+ but that's under very optimal conditions. If you have no advance info about a cat ski operation, 10K vertical (like yesterday) is a good rule of thumb and nearly always true at a day operation.

Topography of K3 is similar to Mustang but runs are usually half as long. They said Euphoria was the longest run they have. Total was 2,600 vertical but at least 500 of that was the long runout.

K3 skis 9AM-3PM. It's probably not a great fit for Staley. He should look into White Grizzly. Also, ChrisC and I fairly regularly get these notices of Mustang cancellations. Those are discounted but typical only with 1-2 days notice.
 
Thanks Tony, that was my suspicion on K3 but wasn’t sure if they ran a different program for lodge guests (longer operating hours) vs. the day group.

I’m on that Mustang list too and hoping to get a last-minute notification for my time frame. I’ve got flights to Spokane and a rental car but no other plans, so I’m truly flexible.
 
Curious if there are a fair amount of conflicts with backcountry day skiers at K3? I look at the Avalanche Canada website starting several weeks before Mustang and I see a lot of reports posted by locals skiing in the same area as K3.

Mustang apparently has occasional issues as well, but they used to (maybe still do?) proactively let sled heads and backcountry people onto the property for the 2 weeks after they stop doing cat guests. Seemed to take care of the majority of issues was what I heard.
 
We were fortunate to get K3's first ski day of the season in their Dark Side sector. View over the edge of Euphoria:

Are both the lodges near each other? They had just finished the first one when I was there in 2021/22.

Is the Dark Side the North-facing bowl behind the initial SE-facing front bowl? The owner indicated they had three bowls (S-to-N) until they abutted the Mustang Zone.

What’s your take on efficiency + vertical vs. Mustang?

My group got 12.5k, but we somehow wound up with our own private cat for four of us. K3 messed up bookings, so the owner took us out. We could have squeezed another run, but we lingered a bit since we had done resort and two other cat days.

The guide implied day skiers are a mix since they mostly come from Revelstoke for a day.

Curious if there are a fair amount of conflicts with backcountry day skiers at K3? I look at the Avalanche Canada website starting several weeks before Mustang and I see a lot of reports posted by locals skiing in the same area as K3.

The owner seemed relatively mellow, so I doubt there are too many issues. They do not operate until after Christmas to mid/late March.

In fact, our initial snowcat up to AVY training was full of a group of 6 ski-touring guys. We got out halfway. They were getting an initial lift-up to the summit. Obviously, they were going to be skiing some of K3's tenure.

I’m on that Mustang list too and hoping to get a last-minute notification for my time frame. I’ve got flights to Spokane and a rental car but no other plans, so I’m truly flexible.

I would call/check in with Valhalla Powdercats (now Baldface Valhalla) to see if they could accommodate a day or two. The terrain is extensive, and the cat skiing is the steepest I have seen. They also push the clock. If you have done avy training, you get an extra run in AM. You will not return until after 5pm to base.
 
Curious if there are a fair amount of conflicts with backcountry day skiers at K3?
Yesterday there were backcountry skiers near one of our runs. Our guide skied down to them and chatted before calling for the rest of us to ski. I did not see the backcountry skiers. Our guide said there was a road and trailhead relatively close by.

I agree with Valhalla terrain quality but I got the usual 10K of day operator skiing there.

Is the Dark Side the North-facing bowl behind the initial SE-facing front bowl?
It's definitely north facing. I never saw a map and AFAIK there isn't one online either. I think there is at least one more bowl/drainage between that front bowl and Dark Side.

Are both the lodges near each other?
Yes, but separate dining/common areas, so we never saw the 8 skiers in the other lodge except at start and end of the trip by the parking lot.
 
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Temperatures rise some to about 15F but there was some wind at the top elevation ~7,500 and off and on snow all day. It snowed 1 inch overnight and 3 during the day. But that was not the only reason snow conditions improved considerably.

There is a herd of 6 endangered mountain caribou in the Monashees, and each time they are sighted, no one can ski in that sector for 48 hours. So every other day one cat goes out from the lodge to check, and this had been happening for the past week in Slow Burn sector northwest of the K3 lodge.

So we were lucky because all we saw were these tracks, partly filled in with overnight snow.
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From Slow Burn we saw a sun pillar of reflecting ice crystals.
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We saw these at Big White also on Saturday.

Liz and tail guide Josh skiing Slow Burn:
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Powder was deeper that yesterday because it had not been skied in over a week. One short pitch was just steep enough to have buried sun crust from the SE exposure.

So we skied three more runs in this sector, finding some of the snow quality I've expected in this part of the Monashees since 2010. Johno emigrated from New Zealand to Canada and lives in Vernon.
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Simon and Ben are from Sydney.
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Liz:
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The cat relocated farther out, skiing The Coombe, one of the runs we had skied the day before. Next was the Trapezoid sector, like Dark Side being skied for the first time this season. It was really dumping while we were skiing the two runs Ladies First and Mr. Right. Liz and Josh at the top of Mr. Right.
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Lower down:
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We had to make our way back as they like to finish skiing on departure day about 2:45. So we got in a couple more Slow Burn sector runs. Ben and Simon:
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Simon:
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Phoenix, Vernon local living with Johno:
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Last run with lodge view in background:
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Given the dearth of fresh snow in western Canada this January, I'd say we got lucky today. Part of that is by design, The microclimate here is very impressive as I observed those many years at adjacent Mustang. But we caught a break getting to ski terrain that had been untouched for a week or more. Total vertical was 9,900.
 
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