Lost Trail Powder Mountain, MT 12/18/05

J.Spin

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The forecast for the weekend was moderately cold temperatures, and that was exactly what we got. Highs were in the teens F, and without any major snowfall, it wasn?t really an inspiring weekend for skiing. Despite the temperatures, I wanted to get out with Ty for at least a couple of runs. Skipping a weekend of skiing means a full two weeks between his ski sessions, and with the improvement he has been making, I don?t want to break his progression. Also, the holiday period might throw an even longer break into his learning, so it was especially important to get out.

Sunday was supposed to be the warmer of the two days, with high temperatures close to 20 degrees F near Lost Trail Pass. Interestingly, as I looked at some of the point forecasts, it seemed as if there was going to be a bit of temperature inversion. Consistent with the inversion, the main summit at Lost Trail had a higher forecast temperature than the base area. This made me more optimistic that we?d be able to take a couple of runs and Ty would be able to stay warm. E had a bunch of stuff to do, so she stayed home with Dylan, and Ty and I went up to Lost Trail alone. We headed off in the afternoon to hit the warmest part of the day. On the drive, the temperature hit a low of 4 degrees F at the bottom of Lost Trail Pass (elevation 5,000?). This had me a little worried, but the temperature had risen to 11 F by the time we got up near the top of the pass (elevation 7,000?)

I had been a bit concerned about the logistics of taking Ty skiing alone, but it seemed to work out OK. I got Ty all dressed in the car with the heater running, to make sure he didn?t start with any chill. We stopped in the lodge for a moment and then it was off to Chair 1. I checked with Ty verbally every couple of minutes, asking if he felt cold, and also examined any exposed skin on his face. With his balaclava, goggles, and helmet, there was little if any exposed skin, but that little area around his nose was hard to cover and had to be checked. His skin was looking great, and at the summit it was sunny and the temperature was well into the teens, so off we went.

Right away, I could see that Ty had improved from the previous weekend. He had more confidence playing around with the position of his skis, and looked at ease despite the slightly colder weather. He worked with trying to get his feet into a wedge, and I was shocked at one point when he used a wedge to bring himself to an almost instantaneous stop. He was certainly having fun exploring the options of his stance. The first run went well, and to be on the safe side, I suggested we go inside to make sure we were warm before a second run. He had a fit about that, and after convincing me that he was absolutely warm, we went for a second run. I told him this would be the last one, since the sun was going behind the mountain and it was going to get very cold, and he seemed to be OK with that. The second run went much like the first, but at the very end, it became obvious that he had made some substantial gains in his skiing. To avoid having to ride the rope tow for our last run, I suggested we head down Charlie Brown so we could ski right to the car. Ty seemed fine with this. I expected to carry Ty down the Charlie Brown pitch, since typically, as soon as he felt the steepness, he asks me to pick him up. Well, not this time. He didn?t even think twice about skiing it, and although he still wasn?t controlling his own speed very much, the pitch (moderate blue?) wasn?t fazing him. He really blew me away when he steered himself over to the skier?s right of the trail and insisted on skiing the powder off to the side. I tried to bring him back onto the groomed terrain, but he said he wanted to go that way. So, in we went. There were about six inches of light powder that had been cut up by a few skiers, and several small terrain obstacles. It was obvious that he wanted to ski it, and even though he fell three times (one of which was a pretty hard face plant) his mood remained optimistic. He had definitely taken another step in his skiing.

Based on the complications of bringing tons of ski gear home to Vermont, and the amount of spare time we might have to ski, I hadn?t planned on bringing Ty?s equipment. After Sunday however, that all changed. With Ty?s continued progression, I definitely wanted to get him back out on the slopes sooner than later, and the chance to ski with cousins might even add an additional positive dynamic. Also, the New England forecast is looking great for holiday skiing. There was no doubt in my mind that the slight extra hassle of a little more gear at the airports was going to be worth it.

After our surprising run down Charlie Brown, I had planned to head right to the car and pump up the heater, but Ty wanted to go into the ?ski house? (base lodge). I?m not sure if he thought Mom would be in there as usual, but he was quite insistent, and since the longer we were away, the more time Mom had for cleaning and shopping etc., in we went. Ty got sad when he realized that Mom really wasn?t around, so I decided to cheer him up by letting him go through the cafeteria line and pick out whatever he wanted. He chose a brownie, a huge blueberry muffin, and an order of fries. I can?t believe he didn?t choose an assortment of fruit and other nutritious items. ;) We sat down and enjoyed an afternoon snack together. Well, Ty enjoyed most of it. At first, we were happily sharing the fries, but somehow he decided they were disappearing too fast, so he cut me off. Only when Ty had moved on to sample the brownie and muffin, did I get the OK to finish off the fries. We hung out for quite a while in the almost deserted lodge, and after he had done enough sampling of his food choices, I packed up the leftovers and we headed to the car.

On the drive home, Ty fell asleep within minutes. He was still wearing his balaclava on his head, and he had part of it in his mouth, so he was quite a sight in the back seat. Heading down the pass with Louis Armstrong belting out Christmas carols on NPR, an exhausted son in the back seat, and no place to be but home, the world sure felt right. I can?t wait to get home to Vermont and get out for some more skiing; the snow just keeps on coming every day and the conditions are looking stellar. Jay Peak has had about 3 feet of new snow over the past 6 days with more on the way. There aren?t even any major storms around, just a consistently moist flow. While the conditions at Lost Trail are still nice packed powder, and even leftover powder on the sides as Ty found on Charlie Brown, the overall snowpack seems pretty worn out and a freshening will be nice. I was describing the conditions to Jon yesterday and said that you could tell the snow on the packed runs had seen the groomer many times. The skiing is fine, just not all that inspirational (although watching Ty try to navigate powder on his own was pretty inspiring). Moisture is on the way this week, and while snow levels might be a bit high, Lost Trail will probably make out well as it usually does. We?ll have to wait and see when we get back because tomorrow morning we?re off to snowy Vermont!

A few pictures from the day can be found at:

http://www.JandEproductions.com/2005/18DEC05.html

J.Spin
 
Ty's parallels to my son Adam's progress at age 3 are quite close, so I decided to look them up. All of the days described below were at Mammoth.

Dec. 12: 2 hour ski lesson out of the Main Lodge. Just learning to walk wearing skis, then slide down 20-30 feet. It was 10 degrees and Adam was the only one of the 3-4 year olds to stay out the whole 2 hours.

Dec. 17: 3rd birthday

Feb. 7: He skis 3 runs with me on Chair 11, Mammoth easiest chair, 150 vertical at about a 10-1 ratio. Using the leash, he's hands-on-the-knees to keep weight forward, rarely falls but no mention of trying to wedge. I think there was another lesson Feb. 6, but I have no record of this.

Mar. 12-13: First mention of wedging to control speed or occasionally turn. After a couple of runs on Chair 11, we moved to Chair 6, which was 450 vertical with trails of varying green to low blue pitch.

Apr. 16-17: I had a friend with me and Adam could turn well enough to play "follow the leader" on Chair 6. He could also wedge to a stop and once made an abrupt emergency turn to avoid an adult beginner who crashed in front of him.

I was under the impression at the time that leg strength was the key limitation at this age. Yet a review plus reading Jay's reports about Ty show rather consistent day-to-day progress. Ty is not yet 3 but seems about where Adam was in March on his 4th or 5th day.

Living near a ski area and getting ~20 days of 1-2 hours will likely result in faster progress for Ty. I still think the leash is a good safety measure at this age, though I suspect it will be slack most of the time by the end of this season.

The big question is when the breakthrough to parallel skiing, pole plants and steep terrain occurs. Garry Klassen and I both observed that our 5-6 year olds wanted to be "in control" and were not as daring as at ages 3-4. Adam's breakthrough occurred on Memorial Day 1991, last day of his 6-year-old season. His days were limited that year because California had several months of severe drought and nearly all the snow came in March. I predict the middle of the age 5 season for Ty :).
 
Thanks Tony, your updates are really helpful as we travel through this learning process with Ty. I'm sure many people have gone through the teaching like you, and while they probably remember it to a degree, I bet not many have specific notes like you to really nail down the times at which things happened. Hopefully my reports will be helpful to others in the future when they teach their kids. We had a very enjoyable afternoon at Bolton Valley a week ago Saturday, in which Ty got to ski with both Mom and Dad at the same time, and Mom finally got some substantial time to work with Ty on the leash. The report is over at the eastern forum however:

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boards ... php?t=1553

Have you guys ever thought of combining all the snow conditions reports into one forum the way Telemarktips.com and others do? It's much easier to browse one collective forum and get a sense for conditions around the country (or world) if everything is together. I don't think any of the First Tracks forums have such high message loads that it would make browsing difficult, and I think all the communities would benefit from more interaction with folks in other locations that might have input. Also, some of the First Tracks forums (Midwest, Europe, Down Under) have such little traffic, that the few messages posted will rarely be seen by anyone. If those few messages appeared in one global forum, they would be seen (and hopefully read) by a lot more people, and there might be some valuable input. I've been thinking about this issue for a while as I've found it hard to keep up with the eastern reports when I'm mostly posting to the western forum, and it especially hit home when I had to post my last couple of reports to the eastern forum only. As a Vermonter living in Montana, I may be the exception, but I definitely want to know what is going on all around the country. Anyway, I just thought it might be something for you administrators to consider.

J.Spin
 
I've seen this type of comment before and I personally have hard time understanding it. I bookmark the Liftlines Forum Index page http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boards/index.php , which tells you at a glance which forums have new postings. Then it's one click into a regional forum. Does it really save that much time to bookmark the Eastern or Western Forum and not know what's being posted in the other ones?

As most of you know I think the East offers an inferior ski product 90+% percent of the time, but I still enjoy reading the reports. They help me understand the picture more clearly, and when I am asked about Eastern skiing I try to respond with informed facts rather than uninformed snobbery.
 
Depending on what comments I see here, perhaps I'll put it to a poll. I kind of like things the way they are, however. The ability for registered users to instantly see what's new, as Tony mentions, is a factor for me.
 
Tony Crocker":2bzdqxx3 said:
I've seen this type of comment before and I personally have hard time understanding it.
Actually, I don't think I would have commented had I known that the topic had been discussed before, or that it was such a point of contention. I may use the forum differently than most people in that although I typically get my weekly reports posted, I may only get a chance to check up on other posts every couple of weeks or so. Then, it's just easier to scan one global forum forward from the last time I'd read the posts.

J.Spin
 
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