Mammoth by Adam 12/14/09

Tony Crocker

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Adam drove up Friday to ski 3 days. Saturday and Sunday were as reported by socal. Saturday pretty good, Sunday severely wind restricted, so Adam only skied 8K that day, saving it for yesterday. Monday Gondola 2 opened at noon and 23 at 1:30PM. They were letting people traverse from the back of 3 before the top opened so Adam did that, then caught the season opening of chair 12. He was over there when the gondola opened, so his 2 runs on Climax were mostly chopped up. A better run on Drop Out. Like the Alta locals he was beat by mid afternoon and thus left, stopping here briefly on the way to San Diego. Weather Monday was very nice, though a lot of the upper mountain fresh snow was windpacked from Sunday.

As usual Snowman's pictures tell all: http://discovermammoth.com/image-galler ... /index.htm. Canyon/Eagle lodges open tomorrow and all lifts this weekend. From Snowman's pics and Adam's comments I'd say 80+% of terrain will be open. Similar situation to LCC: no more worries about Christmas.
 
Were those pics days after the storm. Curious about no snow on the trees in the pics. Great to see all the west getting the goods.
 
I was at Mammoth Thursday to Monday. The mountain looked pretty ugly on Thursday, but I actually found good, soft chopped up powder on Climax.

Friday was a considerably better day with about a foot falling during the day. Certain areas (Face of 3) stayed thin for most of the day, but I found untracked lines with 2 feet of light powder all afternoon by traversing from Chairs 3 and 10. These were short shots, but there was absolutely no one on the mountain, so I got plenty of quality vertical in. Friday was unfortunately really hard on my skis, as many nasty sharks lay waiting below the light snow. Most of the open steep pitches were still full of rocks, so for someone who didn't want to huck everything into questionable landing zones, scrambling over rocks was mandatory.

Saturday was much deeper than Friday, but also much more crowded. I started by lapping the steep, rocky trees next to Coyote from Chair 3. This was the rockiest area I skied on Saturday, and it was also a bit alarming. We set off several small slabs in the seemingly stable trees and we consistently heard the "whoomph" sound in the snow. At one point, I even set off a small slide of maybe 10-15 feet wide down to the rocks. The plus of this is that a ton of snow filled in the landing zones of the cliffs, so hucking the ~10 foot cliffs was safe. Chair 10 opened up later in the day, and we traversed as high skiers left into the Chair 5 area. It required about a 2 minute sidestep, but led to about 300 feet of completely untracked waist deep pow leading into the lightly tracked Dry Creek. Surprisingly, our small group of 3 seemed to be the only people skiing this area, as our sidestep marks were nearly filled in every run.

As Adam mentioned, very little was open on Sunday. Only the Lower Gondola, Broadway, and Stump Alley were made available, so we decided not to head up and just watch football. Some people we were staying with said Roger's Ridge and Gravy Chute were good, but it was brutally cold and windy and lines were long. I slammed my back into a tree pretty hard on Friday, so the day of rest was definitely appreciated.

Monday was the day everyone was waiting for, so the mountain was surprisingly busy for a Monday. We started by traversing into the bottom area of Chair 5 from Stump Alley, and found very deep, nice snow. After a few more runs, we decided to wait for the opening of Chair 10, and after a short wait (~10 minutes) we were heading up. We traversed to the liftline of Chair 5, found some very strange, yet untracked wind crust and then waited for the opening of Chair 5. We had a 20 minute wait before loading Chair 5 with a huge crowd. This was the first time Chair 5 had opened since the storm, so expectations were high. Although it was still good, the snow was definitely wind affected, and no face shots were available. Unsurprisingly, Chair 5 was tracked out almost instantly, so after 3 runs, we headed over to Chair 3 to be near the Upper Gondola. After one nice but wind affected run where we traversed all the way out to Cornice, we decided to wait for the Gondola.

This wait was more like 40 minutes, but very worth it. The first run down skiers right of Climax was not wind affected and DEEP. I only have 86 waist skis, so this means I got face shots every turn. There was a decent line at McCoy, so our next two runs on Climax were more tracked out and not as good as the first. Looking for more fresh tracks, we next took the traverse to Dave's. We did find untracked snow, but it was not deep like Climax. I would say it was a mix of wind buff and wind affected powder, if that makes any sense. On our next trip up the gondola, we traversed over to Chair 23, hiked over the saddle, traversed more, and finally hiked even more to get to Paranoid Flats. Due to the effort required, there were barely any tracks in P4, and the wind had smoothed it out. The entrance was a little rocky, but once in P4, it was DEEP. At least 3 feet, and for me, about 20 turns of straight face shots. Once the Paranoids opened up into one open field, we found a ridge with really nice wind buff. After that, it was bad wind crust before getting the groomer (St. Anton?). We noticed Chair 23 was going to open, so instead of taking the Gondola, we just took Broadway to Chair 23. For the rest of the day, we lapped P4. Our first run there was the best, but the snow was consistently deep and it never got really tracked out. All the locals seemed to leave just before Chair 23 opened, so we skied onto the lift every time and almost everyone was just skiing Wipe Out and Drop Out.

Although I don't keep track of my vertical. I would say I got about 22,500 feet of vertical, with 13,500 of powder. All in all, an absolutely incredible day, probably only surpassed by my two days at Alta when the LCC was closed.

This is my first trip report, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
skilo":1a2167nk said:
Were those pics days after the storm. Curious about no snow on the trees in the pics. Great to see all the west getting the goods.
Probably b/c they got 10 feet of wind after 5 feet of snow, as is usual. Hard for the snow to remain on the trees under those conditions.
 
Welcome, Staley! Nicely done.

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Staley":36au972z said:
This is my first trip report, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

One word - Pictures :mrgreen:

Seriously, though. It's up to you. Some post a general feel of the day in a few sentences, others hit upon every terrain piece or run they made. Seems like yours is a fine TR to me. I'm super visual so pictures mean a lot for me in a TR, but no one saying you have to.
 
The reason for the length is that I want an excuse not to study... Pictures aren't available for two reasons. Most importantly, I don't have a camera. I know. I should get one. Secondly, I don't like stopping for anything on powder days. That includes pictures, lunch, and snowboarder friends who insist on taking one foot out of the binding for lifts. I'm willing to give them a push at the top of the lift, but unnecessarily waiting in windy, exposed areas doesn't appeal to me.

That being said, I much prefer trip reports with pictures. Unless I'm looking for beta on a particular resort, I'm unlikely to even read a TR that doesn't include pictures.
 
I like the detail of Staley's report. Snowman's site http://discovermammoth.com/image-galler ... /index.htm has all the pictures you'll need to get a good impression of Monday's conditions. Multiple reports can sometimes give a more complete story than just one.

Adam sounded a little out of shape. He had 16,550, about 9K of powder. When he's on his game he's had 4 vert+pow > 40K days at Mammoth. He missed Staley's deep run on Climax because he was at chair 12 when G2 opened, but I'm surprised he didn't check out Paranoid.
 
Staley":gjmkoej8 said:
Secondly, I don't like stopping for anything on powder days. That includes pictures, lunch, and snowboarder friends who insist on taking one foot out of the binding for lifts. I'm willing to give them a push at the top of the lift, but unnecessarily waiting in windy, exposed areas doesn't appeal to me.

I get your annoyance, but don't resorts require snowboarders to take one foot out? I can't say I ever notice snowboarders staying completely strapped.
 
I was with a snowboarder on Friday, and they never made him take a foot out. The lift staff seemed overwhelmed the whole weekend and my pass was scanned maybe 5 times the entire weekend. No one ever yelled at him for keeping both feet in, and despite the wind and my lack of strength, there was never any issue getting him on or off lifts.
 
Staley":tkr0stxu said:
We started by traversing into the bottom area of Chair 5 from Stump Alley, and found very deep, nice snow.

As somebody that rides mammoth 5 days a week, I gotta ask, how the hell did you do this?
 
Staley":1xsqgnmy said:
I was with a snowboarder on Friday, and they never made him take a foot out. The lift staff seemed overwhelmed the whole weekend and my pass was scanned maybe 5 times the entire weekend. No one ever yelled at him for keeping both feet in, and despite the wind and my lack of strength, there was never any issue getting him on or off lifts.

I do this all season long on multiple lifts and not a single lifty has ever said anything to me about it.
 
Well, we came out on dry creek, so I considered that the Chair 5 area. We went all the way across the closed chair 3. It involved a lot of poling and a bit of sidestepping. I've only skied at Mammoth 4 days in my life, so I may not be quite right.
 
Well, we came out on dry creek... We went all the way across the closed chair 3. It involved a lot of poling and a bit of sidestepping.
Yes, that sounds doable. But with a ratio of grunt to vertical that only an Altaphile would enjoy. :snowball fight:
 
Staley":2vdr0d4j said:
Well, we came out on dry creek, so I considered that the Chair 5 area. We went all the way across the closed chair 3. It involved a lot of poling and a bit of sidestepping. I've only skied at Mammoth 4 days in my life, so I may not be quite right.

Yeah that was what I was thinking, and thought to myself, nobody is silly enough to do that much pushing and walking and polling just to get a small little run in like that...but I am wrong. :-s
 
If Chair 3 or 5 were open, it definitely would not have been worth the effort. I'm still not sure if it a good investment of energy early on a powder day, but we did get a nice ~6 foot cliff with probably the deepest snow of the day for 10-15 turns.
 
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