Mammoth, Jan. 13-14, 2007

Tony Crocker

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This was in many respects the most unusual weekend I have ever experienced at Mammoth in 30 seasons.

Most obvious were the conditions. Many of you have heard me critique places like Taos and Crested Butte for being so difficult to cover their steep slopes. This is the exact problem at the top of Mammoth this season. Season snowfall is 72 inches, but the largest single storm was only 20 inches on Dec. 26-27. That storm got Mammoth from about 1,000 skiable acres up to maybe 2,000. Many of the storms have been low water content, and most of them have been followed by clearing winds from the east that have stripped the snow from the entrances to nearly all of the runs from the top. Cornice is the only straightforward entry, and it's quite slick from wind and manmade snow. Once in you can traverse to better snow below Hangman's or the Drop Out rocks. You can get into Drop Out, but it's firm, narrow and definitely DFU skiing. You can also step down a gravelly entrance to Scotty's, according to Adam who skied it Christmas week. Everything else up there is awaiting at least one classic Sierra dump to be skiable. Those clearing winds have also made lower St. Anton an occasional minefield, and that's probably where one of my skis got its battle scar.

The lower mountain is far better than one would expect based on the above. All the groomed runs I skied were in good shape. The were a few gravel spots over by Chair 25, but they were avoidable as that's a low traffic area. With 2 small storms totalling 9 inches the past 10 days there's a uniform packed powder surface, and with the possible exception of the last few hundred vertical near Eagle Lodge I couldn't tell that much of the base was probably manmade. I'm told Mammoth's snowmaking system is very portable so they can move it around to where it's needed. On this frigid weekend it was only being used to build more features in the Unbound Terrain Park. Intermediate groomed run skiers have little to complain about at Mammoth now in terms of either cover or surfaces.

For ungroomed terrain chair 5 was probably best. The face of 3 has some also. On powder days the locals are skiing in the trees between the lower groomed trails, but there are still some obstacles. My one real adventure was picking my way down a rocky entrance to Avalanche 2. Once in, the snow was firm enough that I skied in survival mode, one turn at a time.

The part of this weekend that will amuse easterners like Patrick the most was the weather. An impressive Arctic air mass is dominating the West, featuring low temps of 26F at my house (with some minor plant damage), -2F at Big Bear, and -16F Friday night at Mammoth. It was still below zero when we started skiing from Chair 2 at 8:30AM, and needless to say the mountain was quite empty for the first 2 hours. At the start of the day it didn't seem as cold as my last such experience at Castle Mt. in Feb. 2004, but after 3 runs I was slowly chilling and went inside to add an extra sweater and face mask. Unfortunately I never completely recovered and was back in the Main Lodge at 10:30 and 1:30 to thaw out my toes. Saturday was sunny, and fortunately the only wind was at the top. Temps remained below zero up there and warmed to about 10F near Main Lodge. Being confined mostly to groomed runs results in more wind chill and less body heat than a normal day of skiing for me, as I also recall from the day at Castle and a similar one at Norquay in 2002. I forgot the camera Saturday, but I probably wouldn't have taken my mitts off often to use it anyway. Despite all the breaks I still managed 28K on Saturday.

Saturday night some clouds came in, and thus the overnight lows were about 10F higher than Friday night. But Sunday's daytime highs were similar to Saturday, and of course felt at least as cold with no sun. Despite wearing all the clothing I still needed a short morning break and an hour at lunch after watching Adam's slalom race. After lunch we made an exploratory run from the top (where it was -3F with 30-50mph winds) down the backside to chair 14. We were with Mammoth Forum member Dave (with whom Patrick and I skied July 4) and he said the wind had stripped a lot of snow away back there since Christmas week.

We stopped Sunday at 3PM so we could watch the Chargers' playoff debacle before we drove home. But I still managed another 23K. Just to show how spoiled we have become over the past 20+ years, I skied more vertical this weekend than any weekend of my first 6 seasons prior to 1984. The weather would have made life more difficult back then riding slow lifts. My worst ever Mammoth experience was probably this same MLK weekend in 1987, nearly as cold with even less snow and no snowmaking back then. There was more fog and wind then, so I never saw how much snow was on the upper mountain. On that trip we went to June Mt. the next day and then went home a day early.
 
Not really. Western Canada (Banff, Fernie, Kicking Horse, etc) is also having a great season. U.S. Northern Rockies and Colorado are about average. Utah is below average, but an 80% season in the Cottonwood Canyons is not too shabby, as admin's reports attest. So only 2 regions (California and Northeast) can be considered bad. Combining all 8 regions I track, I think it comes out just a bit below average.
 
So only 2 regions (California and Northeast) can be considered bad. Combining all 8 regions I track, I think it comes out just a bit below average.

These 2 regions account for a major hunk of skier dollars spent in the U.S.? Look who's affected. All of Calli , NYC, Boston , Phli .. This is a huge percentage of US skiers..
I guess when you look at the whole picture . Things could be worse..
 
Tony Crocker said:
This was in many respects the most unusual weekend I have ever experienced at Mammoth in 30 seasons.

Sounds like a miserable scenario ski wise, not company wise. It make the fresh at Big Bear, to catch some lineless cross country or snow shoeing look great! My misery was matched by the busy ER with intoxicated snowboarders, adolescence gone really bad, precipitious childbirth problems from the altitude...............but, we survived too!

I am hoping this Spring will bring the California glory we are all used to, minus the crowds who simply begin to loose interest in snow sports and gain interest in water sports! Carol
 
My perspective is to look at geography and climate, which was clearly appropriate when I first made the "close to average" comment in the climate change thread. The entire Northeast including Quebec probably covers a smaller geographic area than Colorado. I also ignore the Midwest and Southeast, which combined produce as many skier visits as the Northeast http://www.nsaa.org/nsaa/press/historical-visits.pdf .

Economically it's a different question. Combining recent U.S. average years in Kottke with Frank's 2003 breakdown of Canada, we have the following:
U.S. Pacific West + Whistler + Vancouver local = 12 + 3 = 15M (20%)
U.S. Rockies + Alberta + the rest of B.C. = 19 + 5 = 24M (32%)
U.S. Southeast = 5.5M (7%)
U.S. Midwest + prairies + Ontario = 7.5 + 3.5 = 11M (14%)
U.S. Northeast + Quebec + Atlantic = 13 + 7.5 = (27%)
So this year we have about 1/6 of average skier visits in areas with excellent seasons and about 1/2 of average skier visits in areas with bad seasons. But check out 1980-81 in the NSAA reference above to see the effect of a really bad season.

The destination resorts probably matter more than these percentages overall when you consider travel, lodging and other vacation costs that make major contributions to local economies in the resorts. But I suspect these percentages would be a good measure for impact upon equipment sales. I hope so, since Adam and I are both in the market for new skis this season.
 
I had a hell of time buying new boots last week. All the shops in my area were sold out of my size 25.5 (9us)).. They all said business is much better than they would have thought. Clothing sales are down but equipment was moving nicely :?
 
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So this year we have about 1/6 of average skier visits in areas with excellent seasons and about 1/2 of average skier visits in areas with bad seasons. But check out 1980-81 in the NSAA reference above to see the effect of a really bad season.

The destination resorts probably matter more than these percentages overall when you consider travel, lodging and other vacation costs that make major contributions to local economies in the resorts. But I suspect these percentages would be a good measure for impact upon equipment sales. I hope so, since Adam and I are both in the market for new skis this season.[/quote]

Well, even more reason I like the uncrowded areas and types of snow sports such as XC and snow shoes! I would hate to see this place even more crowded. Our ER makes the ER on television look like child's play. We are well aware that they could make helmets mandatory. The management allegedly said: "They might not come anymore". The parents would realize it is a dangerous sport and not bring their kids." Dollars and cents versus caring about the crazy kids. Kids still ride bicycles with helmets. I hear the medics tell kids get a helmet. We can fix the knees, shoulders, extremities, not the head. It is important to think of the moral and ethical cost of profit even in the ski industry. It could just be that parents would select a resort that required helmets more frequently than a resort that did not for their precious kids. That way helmet sales and lift tickets may actually increase. They will never know until they try. Most middle class and up parents are safety conscious, who teach their kids to ski.
One crazy snowboarder having tantrums in ER tried to say it was because of a head injury a year ago when the police confronted him. Somehow he was given a chance to stay out of the car and in his vehicle until his girlfriend was released (for bad behavior in the ER (violence)). Funny that he understood that and did not put on the head injured behavior, but the appropriate behavior. These nutss that will manipulate and damage others and property di themselves in, really. They are self-limiting, like gangs. If you only know the precent of illegal drug tests that are positive int he ER on minors who crash and hurt others you would be astounded. Good if they stay away. The patrol is supposed to remove out of control skiers and boarders. Carol
 
If someone is going to snowboard under the influence of illegal drugs and act like a gangbanger, I don't think a helmet is going to make much difference. People need to take personal responsibility for their own actions.
 
Sounds like a miserable scenario ski wise
On an absolute scale, not at all. Anyone east of Colorado would be delighted to ski 2,000 acres of packed powder this year. Regular Mammoth skiers are spoiled, especially after the last two seasons.

As for the cold weather, I view that as my problem. I've skied below 0F temps about 7 days lifetime, and I need to find a way to make it work more consistently. Otherwise I might miss some good skiing sometime, like the the last day at Wiegele when 2 people in our group had to quit after lunch with numb feet. I thought I had it figured out after that day at Castle Mt. in 2004, but now I'm not so sure.

Here are the pics, not so good in overcast weather. They do emphasize the negative, because I've never seen the top of Mammoth look like this before in winter.

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wow, it is sooo odd seeing the top mammoth in mid jan with insufficient snow, talk about a contast between this and last year's epic season, its pretty unbelievable .
 
7 1/2 hours average San Diego to Mammoth. The school provides vans on the race weekends. With the season house rental (usually Christmas to lat April) ski team members can go up there at other times using their own cars. Ironically this season they have the house through May, and it may be the one year in 10 you won't want to be there then.
 
The upper mountain looks like it is really hurting for snow and wind-scoured.

This has to be a bottom 10% season so far or so.
 
Adam at the bottom of the race course, placed second in slalom. Last spring he acquired a down jacket to handle this weather.

Congrats to Adam for his second place. \:D/

But a jacket is useless when you're actually racing, I presume that people had speedsuit, no?

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boards ... 4917#14917

Yesterday was by far the coldest day of the year, morning temps in Ottawa was a nice -25c, maximum during the day was -17c (+2F). A weird thing was that today it was -2c. I am not going to complain even if wearing a speedsuit at that temp is not comfortable, but yeah, we got a race under our belt.
 
This season is a disaster for Cali - as of now.

I'm just sayin'

Sometimes October is better than January...and probably February at this rate.

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bad October snow on the cornice

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Congratulations on making it to Mammoth in October 2004. I only managed to get to Snow Summit that weekend. I did make it to Mammoth Nov. 13-14 though.

Adam sheds the jacket when he's actually racing. But judging by his past sensitivity to cold I'm sure it was a necessity when he was waiting his turn.

Given the prediction on minimal snow the rest of the month, Feb. 1 will indeed be close to the 10th percentile. There have been 4 seasons in the past 38 years at Mammoth in worse condition than now on Feb. 1.

Fortunately I will be skiing Kicking Horse on Feb. 1.
 
Tony Crocker":1gsl6koj said:
Adam sheds the jacket when he's actually racing. But judging by his past sensitivity to cold I'm sure it was a necessity when he was waiting his turn.
That's what we do also, unfortunately we rarely have anyone to bring down the jackets, so we have to take the chair back up to the top in our speedsuit. In our night races, we have 3 timed runs in succession - if the turnout for the race is low and get to keep your jacket for 5 minutes before you go again. :?
 
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