Mole Hill stories... mountain creek

rfarren

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Mountain Creek is my local hill. It may not be big but what it lacks in size and snow, it excels at being less than an hour away from my apartment in manhattan. I use it as a platform to work on my technique, and to exercise. Night skiing is a plus because I can go after work on the weekends fairly easily. I can also go early mornings and be back in time for work during the weekdays. It has its virtues but on the whole it is not a great mountain. However, today while running laps just to focus on technique I realized something I really enjoy about skiing regardless of where you do it: the conversations you spark up with people on the lifts.
I met a person from Newburg who was a chaperone for a school trip. Mountain creek does considerable business with schools around the area. I asked him why was he here when Wyndham is closer and a superior mountain. He said he preferred the night skiing here and that his schedule was such that it was pretty much out of the question to ski during the days. The reply was rather benign but his accent was priceless. He had a very thick New York accent. It was unusual for me, because I rarely encounter anyone with a thick brooklyn accent on the slope. A maine accent, sure!... but this was weird.
Later on the cabriolet lift, which they should replace with a detachable 6 seater, I was with 5 teenagers, all of whom were of korean decent. I thought for a second, and it became apparent that I rarely ever see anyone ski, in new england or out west, who isn't white. It made me realize that one of the things that makes mountain creek so special, is that it is used by a variety of people coming from all different races and places. To see this: all you need to do is enter the cafeteria. Indeed, here skiing is unifying people.
Leaving tonight I felt pretty good about my local hill. Mountain Creek albeit small and sucky, is a pretty darn good ambassador to the sport I love. It may not be Vail, but it is a hell of lot more accessible --(in all interpretations of the word)-- and cheaper. :wink:
 
word yo.
dig it
more non big resort reports needed. tomorrow i'll hit stratham hill, an abandoned ski hill 5 miles from portsmouth, small but big on the rugged touring gear. should be some soft settled wholesome goodness left for me for day 60 this season.

nice to hearof mountain creek rob

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Good points. Lots of people go on about how we need more diversity on the slopes, then complain when they it happens and go elsewhere.

Now that they've turned South/Bear into a terrain park, I ain't going back. That was the only redeeming feature of that place for me. If I need a quick fix, I'd rather drive an hour west to Camelback.

Ah, weekdays at South:
http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boards ... php?t=2944
 
Rob - interesting. I've wondered about mountain creek. While I've been close to it to visit a client (Crystal Springs Resort) and I've actually "sold" the experience, I really don't know anything about it.

James - now that's a NO BULL report. Love reading that stuff.
 
If I need a quick fix, I'd rather drive an hour west to Camelback.

I too would prefer that but it's more than an hours drive. I rarely have a weekday morning or for that matter a weekend night in which I have the time to go 2 hours sometimes 2&1/2 hours to ski a slightly better mountain. I use this as my gym. I get exercise, and I work on my technique. If I have to go more than 2 hours I can't have work. If I can go more than 2 hours, the whole northeast (including Utah, due to easy access via plane) is my palette, and clearly, to the north there are vastly superior mountains.


Now that they've turned South/Bear into a terrain park, I ain't going back. That was the only redeeming feature of that place for me.

I still prefer that part of the mountain, albeit a terrain park. You can go around the jumps etc. It is almost always less crowded than the rest of the mountain, and every now and then when I get bored I take a rail or a jump.
 
One of the Iron Blosam timeshare families lives about 20 minutes from Mountain Creek. Ed Meisner uses it as a gym to be in shape for Snowbird, and for a couple of seasons when he didn't he slowed down some. His kids were in race programs at Mountain Creek.
 
Well, my fiancee' and I have been thinking about a move to L.A. We could both easily substitute our jobs that we have here, there. I for one am for the move. The mountains that are close to la seem a whole lot better than the ones that are within easy reach of new york. I'm sure the snow is at least of equal value, even on baldy in bad years.
 
rfarren":2zh2owc9 said:
I'm sure the snow is at least of equal value, even on baldy in bad years.

I've only observed Baldy from my computer screen and friends' comments (and I'd love to ski it; terrain looks sweet), but it seems like a bad year there means it ain't open... i.e. even more "volatility" than what we're used to.
 
Baldy is Stowe-quality terrain with severe volatility, not worth skiing at all in the worst 1/3 of seasons and good for at least a couple of months in the best third.

Big Bear has a probably more consistent than New England 3+ month season due to a lake source of world-class snowmaking, and I found Stoneham in Quebec to be a close analogy. In the Northeast US I'd guess Okemo, Stratton and maybe Hunter might be similar though they are somewhat larger. Mountain High has slightly better skiing than Big Bear when everything is open and falls between Big Bear and Baldy in reliability. It's a telling indicator of the feast-or-famine weather here that I have not skied Mountain High since 2001.

The major value of L.A. - based skiing is Mammoth, 5 hours if you're well located within L.A. but more like 6 from most places. That drive is more consistent than NYC to Vermont because there will almost never be snow on the road until the last 20 miles.

In terms of days skied, my drive-to skiing for 30+ years through last season was 33% SoCal local, 46% Mammoth, 13% Tahoe and 8% out of state, which I think is an accurate representation of the ski value living here. So there is also value (particularly for families) that you can drive to Tahoe for long weekends or to Utah or Colorado for week or longer trips.

The major disadvantage of L.A. is the rarity of last minute daytrip powder days, which FTOers' like Riverc0il and icelantic make a career of in New England. But I think from NYC that is as difficult as from here, and the rest of the time average quality of skiing is much better from L.A.
 
The major disadvantage of L.A. is the rarity of last minute daytrip powder days, which FTOers' like Riverc0il and icelantic make a career of in New England. But I think from NYC that is as difficult as from here, and the rest of the time average quality of skiing is much better from L.A.

Well, I ain't getting powder at mountain creek, but at least I could make a trade up in terrain with day trip ski resorts. More importantly, weekend trips, which I often make to whiteface, would be made to mammoth. It seems like a good deal to me. The tough thing will be where to live in l.a.
 
Well, I ain't getting powder at mountain creek,

If you go skiing tonite, you'll have powder at Mtn Creek.

Speaking of molehills...Greek Peak is about the same deal. It is nearby, affordable, great exercise, not exciting, but when it snows, I can go skiing right after work for a "powder night". I'd be heading out there today, but I have a dog that is getting out of knee surgery tonite. I do plan to ski there tmrw morning and get into work a tad late.
 
Sharon,

What do you usually ski in? My wife and I will probably be over there tomorrow morning (along with some other friends probably).

I'll be easy to spot in a yellow Spyder coat with gray mountain hardwear softshell pants.
 
Sharon":3ff7emyz said:
If you go skiing tonite, you'll have powder at Mtn Creek.

Unless it cools considerably, this'll probably be mixed precip at MC.

Catskills are predicting about a foot.
 
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