Mt Baker 12/9-10 and Crystal Mtn 12/11-12

Sharon

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Mt Baker saturday was frozen up our first morning. We warmed up our dormant ski muscles on the groomers which were few and not very well-groomed...I kept saying "this is definitely not Okemo". Skiing off the groomers was like skiing on a dry coral reef, refrozen crud which was loud, bumpy and jarring, yet carveable and skiable, though just not super pleasant. Never saw a patch of ice the whole time. We had some decent light for photos in the morning, but then the precip started. Rain at the base and snow on the mtn. The rain was quite soaking. We really got a taste of PNW weather. The Goretex got a good work-out. On the mtn, the 1" of creamed cheese frosting softened the coral reef and made for quieter skiing. The next day there were 2-3" of cream cheese, that turned into large curd cottage cheese as it got skied up. But this made surfaces more enjoyable to ski and we were able to ski all over the mountain. We skied the Chute, the Canyon (from the steep chutes above it), and the steep face off the Pan Face, as well as a number of shots off chair 4. BC conditions were iffey, and w/o local knowledge, we didn't feel as though it would be wise to venture beyond the ropes, even though we had the gear to do so. Whiteout conditions and lack of knowledge of the terrain made the decision easy to stay in-bounds, though we drooled at the lines visibile from within the area. Some day I'd like to check out that terrain I've been oogling from Chair 8. It is right there in your face. The BC is what Mt Baker is all about. The 500 in-bounds acres do pack a punch, but there is so much more to explore beyond the boundaries. Some day we'll get back to do that. Really loved the vibe of that ski area, and we totally enjoyed the funky little hamlet of Glacier. Had a fabulous dinner at Milano's and a few beers at Grahams. The Wake n Bakery was an excellent start to our eastern standard time sleep schedule. It was the first thing open at 7:30. We'd been up since 5:30. The Glacier Lodge was a disappointment. The good thing was that it was cheap and in the hamlet, and probably one of the closest places to stay, but still 25 miles from the mtn. But the rooms were teeny for 2 platonic friends to share, the hot tub was broken, and they didn't serve breakfast until 8:30. We were already at the mtn by that time, though we got a good breakfast cooked to order up there. And, the coffee at Mt Baker is super strong. My hands were shaking as I tried to eat my salmon chowder at lunch.

Monday was a tough day for me. I was sore and tired and it was pouring cats n dogs at the base area of Crystal Mtn. We stayed at the Alpine Inn, which was pretty decent ski-to lodge, but sadly, no hot tub for my aching muscles...but at least there was a bar in the basement. The upper mtn was closed due to wind. We went out in the morning to see what the snow level was and made the best of it. The snow started at about tower 8 off the Chinook lift. We skied the trees off the Forest Queen. Snow was very heavy and sticky. After 2 runs, I had to go in and wax my skis. My quads just couldn't deal with the drag that the wet snow was causing on the runouts at the lower parts of the runs. It was so wet I could ring the water out of my gloves. They were goretex but water seeped in the seems. It was like wearing sponges on my hands. I tried to dry out for a few hours and waxed my skis once they warmed. Went back out after lunch. The snow was piling up. Near white-out conditions kept us in the trees. Still the snow was heavy and it was much deeper as well. The turns at the top of the runs were very nice powder turns in untracked snow. As we got lower the turns became more laborious. I didn't last too long, but Frank mustered up 6 more runs (after 6 in the morning. He was determined to master the conditions. I just told him "knock yourself out, just don't hurt yourself" and skied back to the room to take a hot shower before heading to the Snorting Elk for a few microsbrews. It was a very smart move, as I knew I needed to save myself for Tuesday. It was surely going to be a powder day.

Tuesday's snow report said 13" of fresh snow from mid-mtn on up. The upper mtn was open and had not gotten any attention on Monday. By 7:30 avi control was underway and the blasts echoed the mountain faces and throughout the valley. About 100 people lined up at the 6-pack lift at 9am. Once the lift got running the crowd was gone in 5 minutes. Got a guided tour from Wayne Greivey a pro-skier who was on the cover of Powder Magazine and who regularly hucks himself off cliffs. His biggest jump was 100 feet. We were certainly not worthy, but it was quite a thrill to try to keep up with this guy sporting K2 Pontoons. He took us all over the mountain, including the hike to the top of the Throne. The powder up there was devine and deep and the pitch was perfectly steep. We skied lots of fresh shots here and there, trees, bowls and chutes. I can't recall all the locations, as I spent most of my efforts just trying to keep up. My old achin body hadn't skied since April and 4 days of steeps and deep heavy snow really got the muscles burning. Wayne pretty much skied us into the ground. Even Frank was done at the same time I was totally spent (2:30) as we made our way through Kelly's Gap. Sadly, the BC was not open, but we skied so much awesome stuff inbounds that it was fine, as we didn't even know what we were missing, other than the knowledge that it was out there for us to come back to some day. We'd need a few days to really get to sample all the goods. This is a place we will definitely get back to. hard to believe it is so relatively unknown. It totally rocks. Oh, did I mention it has 3000' vert and 2 backcountry areas that are avi controlled and more than double the amount of skiable terrain? This place is definitely a must-do and will be up in my top 10 alongside Snowbird, Alta, Jackson Hole, Snowbasin and Red.

Looks like it's still dumping out there.

Pictures later.

-Sharon
 
Great report! I too want to get back to Crystal sometime with my OWN equipment so that I can fully experience all of the terrain. :D
 
Larry did not go Tuesday because he believes tomorrow will be better. Snow line will be lower, thus the powder on the lower mountain at Crystal will not be as heavy as Monday/Tuesday.

No matter what weird conditions you get at Crystal, you can't help but be impressed by the world class terrain. Sort of like Jackson Hole in that respect, though Jackson is more predictable.
 
I too want to get back to Crystal sometime with my OWN equipment so that I can fully experience all of the terrain.

FWIW Crystal has a brand new fleet of Salomon X-Wings in their rental shop and the ski shop in the Alpine Inn (just down from the main base area) has performance skis for rent. Many fat skis including the ridiculously wide K2 Pontoon.

No matter what weird conditions you get at Crystal, you can't help but be impressed by the world class terrain.

Yeah, that's for sure. See attached.
 

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The Throne is a pretty nice bowl. Actually probably the easiest of the headwalls to ski. I had a very good run down it. It sounds like you went a little farther over. By the time I got there that line had been skied out so I pted for an unused line that went between some trees.
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FWIW Crystal has a brand new fleet of Salomon X-Wings in their rental shop and the ski shop in the Alpine Inn (just down from the main base area) has performance skis for rent. Many fat skis including the ridiculously wide K2 Pontoon.

It is good to know they decided to upgrade. They REALLY needed it.
 
jamesdeluxe":2zawqysz said:
Mo' pix, pleeze... unless you're saving them for the article.
With the season were having in the East so far, you're killing us with only one pic. We're all sitting on the edge of our chairs waiting and refreshing every hour and hoping to see more pictures. :roll:
 
jamesdeluxe":xco46n12 said:
Damn... how far is Crystal from Seattle?

Not far for a skier/boarder living in Jersey, very far from one from SLC. :wink:

Based on my summer trip in that area that the drive wouldn't be more than 3 hour.

Thanks Sharon for the pics.
 
It is more like 1 1/2 hrs...depending on Seattle traffic.

Once you are off I-5, it is just over an hour.

Makes Seattle a very appealing place to relocate. Great city with world-class skiing nearby.

Mt Baker is 2 1/2 hrs from Seattle, and worth the extra hour to avoid the crowds. Apparently Crystal gets busy on the weekends, but with high-speed 6 pack lifts, you don't wait around long, and with 2 huge backcountry areas, you can probably get away from the crowds pretty easily and find fresh snow. Mt Baker has older slow fixed grip lifts, but that keeps the mountain from getting tracked out quickly. It is much more laid back than Crystal.

I would say that the terrain at Crystal rivals any of the SLC resorts. While the snow isn't the "Greatest Snow on Earth" it is bountiful and with fat skis, who cares...as long as it's fresh.

Towards the end of our last day, however, the heavier snow did take a toll on our legs.
 
Seattle is a great ski city, but it's a far cry from SLC. The other areas do not have the scale of high end terrain that Crystal does, unless you count weekend trips to Whistler (analogous to L.A. to Mammoth). With regard to snow you do get rain events and a lot of heavy not frozen overnight spring days. But considering the more frequent big powder days and Crystal's terrain (and Whistler) I'd take Seattle over Denver.

Note that admin had the same snow yesterday at Alta that you did Tuesday at Crystal. Interestingly we also have a contemporary report from Breckenridge. And as usual we see that the Colorado snow is of excellent quality, but it would sure be nice if they got more of it.
 
With regard to snow you do get rain events and a lot of heavy not frozen overnight spring days.

On those days I'd go whitewater kayaking, windsurfing, or hell, I might just take up wave surfing. Our guide, Wayne Greivey, went surfing on monday. The ocean is nearby!

He's got a website http://www.cascaonline.com
there are some nice photos of the surf

The PNW offers a lot of water options that SLC doesn't. While I may be a skier first...I'm more than "just a skier".
 
Sharon":gh2c0uwd said:
With regard to snow you do get rain events and a lot of heavy not frozen overnight spring days.

On those days I'd go whitewater kayaking, windsurfing, or hell, I might just take up wave surfing. Our guide, Wayne Greivey, went surfing on monday. The ocean is nearby!

He's got a website http://www.cascaonline.com
there are some nice photos of the surf

The PNW offers a lot of water options that SLC doesn't. While I may be a skier first...I'm more than "just a skier".

Ok

What really happens....

You start dating a hard-core surfing chic....and she wants to drive to the coast to surf in the Winter.

Fine.

But then she wins a "Surfer Girl" Magazine contest as the most hard-core surfer ever....going to the Washington Coast in 40 with water temps 40.

And then she goes to Costa Rica -- where the boyfriend was not invited.

"Surfer Chick" was not going to pay for two.

And she comes back - talking about Pablo - or Whatever.

It ruins people and you move on.
 
But then she wins a "Surfer Girl" Magazine contest as the most hard-core surfer ever....going to the Washington Coast in 40 with water temps 40.

And then she goes to Costa Rica -- where the boyfriend was not invited.

"Surfer Chick" was not going to pay for two.

And she comes back - talking about Pablo - or Whatever.

It ruins people and you move on.

Bummer dude.
 
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