Mt. Baldy 3/13/2010

Staley

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After a great day at Waterman yesterday, I figured Baldy might be more of an opportunity to (try to) teach some beginner friends how to ski. Upon arriving at the hill, I was somewhat in shock at how little coverage there was at the base. There was barely any snow to put on my skis before loading Chair 1, and Sugarpine looked really ugly and rocky. I don't know the area well, but I decided right away that I wouldn't be skiing Holcumac, since there probably wasn't any snow-covered way out.

Thankfully, the snowpack on the upper mountain is holding up pretty well. When the rest of my group was busy getting rentals, I did a warm-up run on Spring Ridge, and despite it being much colder than I expected at 8am, it was surprisingly soft on very carveable on the Praxis. I skied a few runs on Chair 4 with the group before realizing that there was pretty much perfect corn and that I better ski it while it lasts. I pretty much covered the entire Chair 4 area, and everywhere was really soft and fun. There were a few hard spots in the shaded trees, but for the most part, everything off the main trails was perfectly smooth.

After I got bored with Chair 4's flatness, I headed over the Chair 3. I could see from the lift that everything ungroomed was really hard and somewhat icy, so I stuck to the groomers. Robin's Run and Skyline were still hardpack, and in the spots that were a bit scraped, I definitely noticed that 120mm underfoot just doesn't act like a GS ski. I didn't quite feel up to the challenge of the hardpack, so I returned to Chair 4 for more corn. Around 11:30, the groomed slopes became considerable softer and were more like slush than corn. I therefore stayed in the woods for a while, but eventually, everything turned a bit slushier.

I decided to try Spring Ridge again despite is slushiness, and to my surprise, it felt almost exactly the same as it did during the prime corn harvesting period. I think I'll attribute this to the Praxis. Never in my life have I had so much fun in the slush. While everyone else was getting slowed down, as soon as I got some speed up, I was able to ski the slush almost like powder. I could carve when I wanted to, but at any moment, I could also engage the skis into a "slarvey" slide. I did laps on Chair 4 until about 2:30, when the snow got a bit crystalized and I figured Chair 3 had soften up.

I think I timed it about right, since the runs on Thunder were definitely softer. I started in the small liftline bumps, which were still fairly hard at the top. The Praxis didn't like this, and I realized that these are not the skis for hard bumps. On the next run, I searched for more South-facing terrain off the Fire Road. I'm not sure where I dropped in, but it was phenomenal corn. Absolutely no one was skiing this area (probably because of the bony entrances), but it was the best snow of the day. I haven't skied true corn much before, but I'm guessing this is about as good as it gets. I skied variations of the same run for the rest of the day, before downloading on Chair 1. From the chair, I realized I could have skied down without running into many rocks, but I wasn't really sure how to best accomplish that, so I took the safe option.

For what its worth, I heard from some people on the lift that South Bowl was also good. I guess this makes sense, since I suppose it faces South.

I know this was a really long report, but I basically treat this forum like a diary and I'm really bored with everyone else already gone for Spring Break.
 
The open part of South Bowl faces SW. The trees wrap from W facing to N facing. There's more SW exposure skier's right of South Bowl (Bill's Bowl), but it tends to be sketchier and I wouldn't go there now based on this report.

Best way down at the end of the day is traverse out to Bentley's. If it's too thin once you get under chair 1, it's only about 100 yard walk down from the bottom of Bentley's.
 
I've only been boarding for about three years and were wondering what Mt. Baldy's conditions are like compared to like Bear Mountain or Mt. High? Thanks.
 
Mr. Crocker can answer this in better detail than anyone, but you said "conditions," and I just got back from Baldy today. Baldy does not groom to the extent of those other places, so on spring-like days such as today, you have to wait for the sun to exact its power on not just off-piste terrain, but on a sizable amount of acreage representing named runs that are not groomed. Several have commented either here or elsewhere this season that Baldy seems to have stepped up its grooming commitment. I agree. The groomed runs today were just as good -- talking consistent surface -- as they are at Bear or High.

Also, I believe Baldy has more variety in exposure than other local ski areas, so some terrain burns off pretty quick in dry weather, but then other terrain -- at least a good portion of Thunder Mountain (Ch. 3) -- lasts at least as long or longer. I saw a picture today in the lodge of four skiers posing on the mountain on June 7, 1998. Pretty sure other places weren't open as late that El Nino year (although Baldy may tolerate lower biz volume - one possible consideration, but anyhoo ... steep sun-protected stuff lasts longer, I think.)

If you want to try it out, I'd suggest this week as a good time. Head over to Ch. 4 first thing. It's not as steep as other areas of the mountain; especially fun on a board. It's a good place to take Baldy baby steps by trying out terrain that softens the quickest and that isn't as demanding. If the wind wasn't counteracting the sun today, Ch. 4 runs no doubt would have been slushing big time near 2 p.m. (my last run there).
 
SoCal Rider":3ddvu40e said:
If the wind wasn't counteracting the sun today, Ch. 4 runs no doubt would have been slushing big time near 2 p.m. (my last run there).

I was there on Friday, and by noonish the chair 4 runs were slush, by 2 everything was.
 
Both of the above posts are reasonable. On a normal SoCal sunny day (no clouds and minimal wind) chair 4 is slop by noon. The steeper Thunder runs usually ski well right to the end on a warm day, though the convergence area where chairs 2 and 3 and Beginner Gulch, Robin's, Emile's and Skyline meet will get very heavy.

four skiers posing on the mountain on June 7, 1998
I did the backside tour with truck pickup on May 31, 1998: http://webpages.charter.net/tcrocker818 ... ldytc.HTML
I also got a powder day on May 14, 1998: http://webpages.charter.net/tcrocker818 ... ldytc.HTML
 
It was whipping pretty good and was a fairly cool wind. Now, I almost never go down to T-shirt - scrawny weenie factor - but I stayed with a fleece layer and shell all day and didn't feel hot until I finished Sugar Pine at 2:15.

I saw almost no one try Thunder from the top until 1. Did see one two-planker try to Top Gun it about midmountain. Might as well call him Maverick. He lasted for five seconds or so before falling and losing a ski. Luckily - for him - he got up. Love the graceless bomber runs that end in a tumble. There were a couple of pretty darn good skiers today hitting Thunder and doing it with style (and some speed) when few others were.

Most people weren't hitting the middle until the groomed cut-over from Skyline, the left half (riders left) of which was still scrap-y my last run there (so I didn't venture out to Tube or SB and didn't see one person emerging from the exit either).

Spring Ridge off-piste was sublime in afternoon. I would have done that for another hour if I lived closer.
 
Tony Crocker said:
Both of the above posts are reasonable. On a normal SoCal sunny day (no clouds and minimal wind) chair 4 is slop by noon. The steeper Thunder runs usually ski well right to the end on a warm day, though the convergence area where chairs 2 and 3 and Beginner Gulch, Robin's, Emile's and Skyline meet will get very heavy.


I thought I'd give it a whirl. No doubt, the wind did wonders for preserving 4 today. Of course, at the same time, it prevented hero snow on Thunder. I'm sure it still softened too much on 4 for some people, but I still dug it, if a little slow at the end. I'm not a bomber, but I don't care at all for the surface grabbing my ride either - ah, that lovely convergence area being prime example No. 1 of this - no fun. None of that today.
 
Get some powder skis and use them in the slush. It completely changes everything. With them, slush skis somewhat like heavy powder, no grabbiness until the flat section at the bottom of Chair 4, and if I sat back a little bit, I just flew by everyone else.
 
Tony Crocker":1yf6gg89 said:
Then what do you call the snow we were skiing on the lower part of our bus run Sunday at Alta?

Heavy untracked new snow. Definitely not powder.
 
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