Schweitzer, ID - 3/15-18, 2012

abunai

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Since this board has been very helpful to get a feel for conditions in various resorts, I wanted to provide feedback on a lesser known ski area: Schweitzer, Idaho.

My son and I planned a short trip during spring break. A week before the scheduled trip, snow-forecast.com became our best friend to determine where we would likely find fresh powder. The forecast for Colorado and Utah was sunny weather and mild temperatures with no fresh snow on already thin bases. It quickly became clear the Northwest would have the best chances for a major snow event. Whistler was initially on top of the list but Schweitzer looked pretty good with a base of around 100". Having skied Whistler plenty of times, I wanted to try something new and thought that Schweitzer might be worth a try, particularly with their offering of a $99 Spring pass. We stayed at a lodge directly in the "resort" which is extremely convenient to get on and off the skis. We arrived in the evening of 3/14 and woke up on 3/15 to fresh snow of around a foot. Skiing was great for the first 2 hours until it started getting warmer and it rained almost to the top of the mountain. Even Gore-tex clothing had a hard time to keep all the water out...

There was more heavy rain until the early morning hours on Friday when it got colder again and the slush was covered with a thin coating of powder. The conditions on Friday morning were extremely tough with a half-frozen base just slightly covered. On top of that, it was foggy with heavy snow fall. It was so bad that Schweitzer closed off a number of ungroomed runs after multiple injuries were reported. We stayed mostly on the few groomed black runs which were not too bad. By around 3pm on Friday, the ongoing snow fall created enough of a cushion that we could venture again onto ungroomed runs off the Great Escape lift. Due to an event at the terrain park, one lift (Basin Express) stayed open until 6pm which allowed us to finish the day on untouched 6" above groomed blues. Perfect for big carving since we were virtually alone on the slopes.

It snowed more overnight and Saturday. Not knowing the resort, we hesitated to get down double blacks with virtually no visibility which was a good thing because there are a number of unmarked cliffs on these slopes (we finally saw them on our last day when the sun came out). The snow conditions were outstanding, though, with 1 to 2 feet of powder, depending on the wind exposure. We skied the area around Colburn School for a good part of the day and were able to find untouched snow throughout the day. Colburn School is a hidden jewel accessed with a short traverse from the bottom of the T-Bar and I guess few people find their way to it. We finished the day on great powder off the Lakeview lift but the visibility was still very bad.

Sunday was our last and best day: It stopped snowing and we could finally see where we were going. We spent the majority of the day in the Outback Bowl with Siberia, Wayne's Woods and Lakeside Chutes (not really chutes, though) our favorites. Because the Outback Bowl closes at 3:30pm, we finished the day on the Lakeview lift and were still able to find untouched snow.

Overall, the "adventure Schweitzer" was a pleasant experience, despite the rain on Thursday and very challenging conditions on Friday. The snow was perfect early on Thursday and all of Saturday and Sunday.

Because of the low altitude of the resort and a small vertical, I would not book a trip to Schweitzer well ahead of time, though. While it rains regularly in the village of Whistler, the mountain tops always get snow while Schweitzer may see rain all the way to the top (as we experienced during this trip). Also, do not go to Schweitzer except for skiing/snowboarding. There is nothing else to do and dining/bar choices in the evening are very limited: one restaurant (Chimney Rock, pretty good food) and one pub. The big advantage of such a tiny "resort" town for a relatively large ski area (2900 acres) is that there are no lift lines. Even on Sunday (when the conditions were perfect and locals visit from Spokane or other nearby places), we never had to wait on any lift and could find untouched snow throughout the day.

When the conditions are great, Schweitzer is a small gem with enough challenging runs to keep one happy for a couple of days.
 
Nice report. I would love to see some pics added if you have any.

A friend and I are considering meeting in Spokane and driving up to Red, Whitewater, etc., next winter. I've been wondering if Schweitzer would be worth stopping at on our first or last day. How long was the drive from the Spokane airport?

Anyone have any idea how common rain is at Schweitzer, on average?
 
flyover":27lwf4qp said:
Nice report. I would love to see some pics added if you have any.

A friend and I are considering meeting in Spokane and driving up to Red, Whitewater, etc., next winter. I've been wondering if Schweitzer would be worth stopping at on our first or last day. How long was the drive from the Spokane airport?

Anyone have any idea how common rain is at Schweitzer, on average?

Did that exact trip in mid January but skipped Red and went cat skiing. Definitely hit Schweitzer if the conditions are good. The drive from there to the airport is an easy hour or so, no problem. The ride from Nelson to Sandpoint can be a tough one, we hit it in a storm and it took close to 5 hours with whiteout conditions and fully snow covered roads.
 
Schweitzer is usually worth the stop IMHO, as on my January 2000 and January 2012 trips. Red gets similar snow/rain and is at similar altitude. Red is a very steep mountain and this more sensitive to less than optimal snow conditions than Schweitzer. While in the general region keep in mind that Whitefish gets similar precipitation but is a bit higher so somewhat reduced rain risk. Fernie is similar altitude to Red/Schweitzer but gets ~30% more of both rain and snow. Finally, Whitewater has the highest base, gets even more snow than Fernie and far less rain than the others. Whitewater is still the smallest of these areas though twice as much acreage as before with the new chair added 2 years ago.

All of these areas are quite low by Rocky Mountain standards and are best skied January/February IMHO. They also have a lower proportion of north facing terrain than most UT and CO areas and will thus have almost immediate spring conditions on a majority of terrain on sunny March days.
 
It took us around 1 hour 45 minutes from Spokane Airport with little traffic. Everyone seems to stay within speed limits - I guess troopers are strict with enforcement.

Did not take many pictures - here are a few with my son when it did not snow....
 

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Thanks, everyone. Looks like a good trip, Abunai.

Socal, Tony,

Any recommendations for 1-day cat skiing in the Nelson area?

Oh, and sorry about the :hijack:
 
flyover":33gfo53q said:
Any recommendations for 1-day cat skiing in the Nelson area?
Valhalla is the only one without a lodge that specifically caters to day skiers. Retallack will take them on standby. White Grizzly will them take them coinciding with the first day of a tour after a thorough phone interview if they think you are compatible.

Remember that you will be getting the safety lecture and transceiver drill on day 1 of any cat tour and probably skiing 2 runs fewer than on a second or later day. There also tends to be conservatism on terrain choice for a few runs until the guides see how the group skis. Runs will be chosen not to be too demanding for the slowest skier in the group, and day trips attract more first timers. All of these reasons should induce advanced skiers to consider a multiday trip.

Karl Weatherly skied a day with Big Red in late January and experienced the above issues. Also Big Red should IMHO be booked only last minute because the area around Rossland is lower and gets much less snow than the areas north and west of Nelson.

Socal had an outstanding day at Valhalla on January 17 with a very strong group: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9967 . I was at Mustang at the same time; snow was excellent though it was very cold.

Stellar Heliskiing collects day skiers from Nelson and flies out of Kaslo, and since they use A-Stars with 4 to a guide there's probably a better shot at a compatible group than with one day cat skiing.
 
Thanks for the report. I've had a trip to that region on my radar for the last few years, but always get sidetracked.

Nice pic of Lake Hanging Ear.
 
+1 to Valhalla, if you're a strong skier it was a great day. Long ride into and out of the mountains from their base but we moved fast and even though we got lost for about an hour an a half we still got about 6 runs in (and that includes the safety meeting at the begining). The safety meeting cost us one run not two btw.
 
By the way, due to my busy work schedule, kids' school and team sports as well as the need to fly or take a 12 hour car ride to go skiing, our days on the snow have been less than 2 weeks per year. Because of this combined with our preference to travel light and to try different equipment, we rent skis wherever we go. At Schweitzer, they already started selling off demo skis before our arrival in mid-March and the selection was therefore somewhat limited. On top of that, they do not allow reservation of a particular ski in advance. This is something to be aware of when visiting Schweitzer later in the season. Having said that, the skis they still had were top notch and not so called demos you often find at other resorts that are several seasons old and hardly qualify as demos (see: http://www.schweitzer.com/lessons-equipment/demos/)

My 13-year old son is 100 lbs and too short and light for men skis and therefore got a women's Atomic Century (http://www.atomic.com/en-US/Products/Al ... px?filter=) which does not look too girly. With 100 lbs on a 100mm waist, he was floating through everything... I was able to secure a 185cm Opus from Line (http://lineskis.com/skis/mr-pollards-opus) which I found outstanding for both 1-2 ft powder and the very tough conditions on Friday. It has 118mm under foot but does not feel that wide at all and even carves well on groomers.
 
Regarding skis, if you're renting for a road trip it makes sense to demo in Spokane and then hit the road. My friend demo'd some nice skis from NW Sport X, something like $160 or so for a week rental.

Here's their location: 3220 N. Division st. Spokane, WA 99207
 
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