Snowbird/Alta, UT 5/12/12

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Day 68: Stick a fork in me.

I'm done. Lift served skiing ends tomorrow at Snowbird, and if I try to ski on Mother's Day I'm going to receive my nuggets back in a box. I'm not sure that my body will be up to it tomorrow, anyway, for we went from open to beyond closing time today -- 8 a.m. until 3 p.m. -- without any break, even for lunch. There was also ample hiking involved. My back is already killing me. But I've got lots and lots of pictures today.

I met up with AmyZ and Skidog at the Forklift for a 7:30 breakfast. Cover near the very bottom is getting rather patchy.

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We boarded the Tram shortly after opening. To say that the early part of the day was uncrowded would be an understatement:

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We were joined mid-morning by Bobby Danger and Telejon. Bobby was late because he had to drive rdwore to the airport for a morning flight to head back to Upstate NY for the summer (we missed you, rdwore!). We just kept lapping both MBE and Little Cloud repeatedly, searching for perfectly softening snow.

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In many place it was smooth as butter.

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In some locations, though, the unusually thin snowpack has led to sun cups earlier in the year than I've ever seen them before.

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In other places the lack of snow is rather startling.

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It felt good to ride Little Cloud this final weekend, for this summer it will be replaced by a high speed detachable quad.

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By 12:30 it was time for our final run, which would turn out to be a 2.5-hour marathon adventure up Mount Baldy, down Main Chute, up to the top of Wildcat and down Comma Chute.

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Here's something I tried for the first time this evening, a virtual reality 360-degree panorama from the top of Mount Baldy.

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The forum will only display an image inline if it's no more than 1024px wide. I've therefore placed the full-resolution picture on its own page for those who wish to view it.

I tried making 2 versions of the VR image - the first is for those with the Quicktime browser plugin - just use your mouse to click and drag to pan and the SHIFT and CTRL keys to zoom out/in while your mouse is over the image:

[quicktime]http://www.firsttracksonline.com/images/Baldy_panorama_sm.MOV[/quicktime]

The second is a lower-res Flash version for those without Quicktime (move your mouse over the image to speed up/slow down/change direction of the panning motion):

[flash_pano]http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boards/files/baldy_panorama.swf[/flash_pano]

Edit: I've updated the panoramas to better align the field of view and to better hide the seam.

After hanging out at the summit for a bit it was time to drop in.

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There's still a boatload of snow in Alta's Collins Gulch, although the entire High Traverse has melted out and even a good chunk of the Saddle Traverse on West Rustler.

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I took the Turbo Traverse to the top of Wildcat while the others skied Harold's and then booted up the Wildcat Road.

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A short bootpack later we were hanging out at the ammo building on the Wildcat Ridge taking in the mid-afternoon view.

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Getting to Comma Chute proper was a little tricky, as the snow above the chute itself has already largely melted out. There was some traversing across mud and rock involved, but once in the chute itself cover -- and surface conditions -- were as perfect as they could get.

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We made it back to the cars right at 3 p.m. after a walk down a portion of Westward Ho. All in all, a fine way to end what was in many ways a disappointing season. There's always next year!
 
admin":24ep3ebe said:
Day 68: Stick a fork in me.
I'm at 64 days; I don't expect to catch up this time. My streak will probably end at 19 months, similar to admin in 2006.

Is it lack of interest, or do you think snow access to the bases of Little Cloud and MBE will be gone by next weekend? From this report the quality of skiing is still quite good.
 
Tony Crocker":3be2f5b5 said:
Is it lack of interest, or do you think snow access to the bases of Little Cloud and MBE will be gone by next weekend? From this report the quality of skiing seems to still be quite good.

Both. Lack of interest remains clear to me, and they'd likely have to do some snow farming to keep the bases of both of those lifts covered. The loading area of Baldy Express is now bare, and areas around the base of MBE are, too. The flats at the very bottom of Mark Malou just before arriving at Little Cloud are actually a swamp, and a stream runs from that swamp just beyond the end of the loading corral. That causes it to undermine and melt out quickly. There are places in Little Cloud bowl with no snow, and other large areas have perhaps six inches that will be gone beyond this weekend.

It also took some serious snow farming to provide a continuous white strip to the base of the Tram via Bass Highway. Right by the spruce tree near the end it's now perhaps four feet wide. That's the only uninterrupted route still remaining to the base of Snowbird, although I'll admit that you may be able to get there via the snowmaking route down lower Chip's -- I just don't know. You can't even take the usual "Secret Traverse" from the Cham 1 gate to the spot beneath Baldy Express where it's a 200-yard walk to Sugarloaf Pass to access Alta, as the entire thing beneath the Chamonix Chutes is completely melted out just to the right of the "My tracks" photo of Chamonix 3 (above) with zero snow all the way down to the flats. The view of Gad Valley from below, which I didn't photograph, is absolutely shocking. Runs like Lone Pine are gone, completely gone. Who Dunit (where it still has snow) is an absolute minefield with debris from the big avalanches in that area this winter -- rocks, trees, branches, etc. Overall everything looks more like mid-June than mid-May, and in some cases worse than the typical mid-June.

Other areas have plenty of snow, of course. But combine these issues with a) the lack of interest, and b) the need to get going on the Little Cloud replacement, and Snowbird's decision makes complete sense to me. I don't fault them for it in the least.
 
No question the snow farming could be done, as evidenced by Mammoth in 2007. But give the disparate demand and the new lift construction, no surprise that it isn't.
 
Tony Crocker":38x81eie said:
No question the snow farming could be done, as evidenced by Mammoth in 2007. But give the disparate demand and the new lift construction, no surprise that it isn't.

I don't know about the "no question" part.
 
Memorial Day 2007 WROD's to Mammoth's Main Lodge:
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I think those took a hell of a lot of work, probably every night for a couple of weeks. No criticism at all from me for Snowbird not exerting that kind of effort when the demand isn't there. My criticism of Snowbird spring management relates only to what they don't do when the demand IS there.
 
Will you get backcountry access like some past seasons? I'm guessing the tram is down for its annual maintenance and there might not be much snow left when it reopens for summer business in 2-3 weeks.
 
I can understand Admin's feeling on this one. Based on those pictures the evergreens seem to have that bright spring green thing going, that makes you just crave warm weather activity. Still, it's pretty darn good looking stuff out there as far as the white is concerned.
 
Im still going to get a few more touring days in. Just too much snow to pass up.

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