Snowbird, UT 5/7/06

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Day 55: What a nasty little nuisance new snow makes.

I had been contemplating going up on Saturday. Shortly after noon, The Kid and I were even dressed, packed in the truck, and heading out the driveway when I called Marc_C. It's never a good sign when he's home already.

"We already made our four runs and went home," he said, explaining that the inch or two of new snow that fell on Friday was all sticky and gluey and they decided that it wasn't worth it.

So did I, so it wasn't until Sunday morning around 10:25 that we were repeating the exercise. I called Marc_C and left a cell phone voicemail. I called molecan and left a cell phone voicemail. Undeterred, we kept on going.

What we found was that the inch or two of elephant snot from Friday had turned to a big spill of Elmer's. Groomers were heavy and wet, yet rather fun, although that wasn't quite what I was in the market to buy. Ungroomed was fine where it was untracked, if you could find it, but anything that had been skied was covered in one- and two-foot balls of heavy, wet mush. Ugh! And many lines had slid -- the Mid-Cirque Traverse to Gad Chutes, Wilbere, South Chute, etc. was closed (more on that later). In fact, South Chute had slid all the way across the road to Big Emma, depositing small evergreens on the slope below. The bottom line is that this insignificant snowfall messed up the recent corn production. Of course, all of the Peruvian Gulch terrain was closed due to chairlift construction. On the bright side, Sunday was our last chance to ski lift-served Mineral Basin for the season.

So that's straight where we went, finding pleasant but wet groomed on Powder Paradise. We decided to sample again, this time by shortcutting some switchbacks on Lupine Loop to check the ungroomed without committing ourselves. Again, where it hadn't been skied it was rather pleasant, but the skied-up final pitch through the rocks above the base terminal of Baldy Express were hell on earth.

Heading back to the front side, we found that the rope line out Knucklehead Traverse has been removed, and we kept going until we found untracked lines on the Bass Benches. Truly, those were the best turns of the day with a smooth, supportable base underneath and an inch or so of the aforementioned elephant snot on top.

I was content to head home, but The Kid wanted a couple more runs and I was happy to retire to a beer on the deck of the new Creekside. After two runs, though, he managed to pull me out kicking and screaming for one more Gadzoom lap as he pulled more tricks in the Big Emma terrain park.

I was sad to learn last evening, though, that the Mid-Cirque Traverse closure wasn't solely due to snow instability. Rather than erect a ropeline atop the Cirque, Snowbird has elected to close that traverse for the entire season because it's possible to access parts of Peruvian Gulch from there. Likewise, they have closed Baldy Ridge for hiking to access Mt. Baldy and the chutes into Alta.

By that same theory, why not just close the Tram altogether because it's possible to access Peruvian Gulch routes from the Tram? Last year, late into June the lower mountain was officially closed, yet they couldn't reasonably be expected to string a ropeline across mid-mountain from one end to the other! Frankly, by removing the Gad Chutes, South Chute, Wilbere Bowl, and access to Baldy, as well as closing Mineral Basin after yesterday, there's little else for an expert to enjoy besides the Rasta Chutes, Knucklehead Chutes, etc. accessed by the Knucklehead Traverse -- and they're all rather short lines. And who goes skiing in May anyway besides the diehards, who are typically expert skiers? This decision just seems short-sighted to me, and I'll confess that it removes much of my desire to head up there for turns until the closing bell.
 

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Admin":3agrz2ql said:
By that same theory, why not just close the Tram altogether because it's <i>possible</i> to access Peruvian Gulch routes from the Tram? Last year, late into June the lower mountain was officially closed, yet they couldn't reasonably be expected to string a ropeline across mid-mountain from one end to the other!
This is a really fine, semantic point, but, last season, as always, anything in Peruvian Gulch or below Little Cloud in Gad Valley was technically open backcountry skiing. In fact there was the typical USFS green sign at both the Chip's and Bassackwards gates informing that you are entering unpatrolled backcountry. This year because of the new lift going in, anything on the Peruvian side is officially closed. My suspicion is that Snowbird may well have a rather strict edict from their insurance carrier regarding Peruvian Gulch access during construction.
 
Marc_C":1ok78ma7 said:
My suspicion is that Snowbird may well have a rather strict edict from their insurance carrier regarding Peruvian Gulch access during construction.

I suspect that you're correct. Why not, then, placate your core customer base by paying a few nearly-minimum-wage lifties to keep Mineral going a little while longer? Give us something with substantial pitch to keep us entertained.
 
I think you're just SOL this season. One would think this construction could have started in June and still be done by November 1. But I've never been able to figure out ski area construction schedules. Better than the Fernie 1998 experience where they started building the lift late October, it dumped in November and the lift wasn't ready at Christmas.

But I'll also repeat my earlier observations. I've skied at Snowbird in May 3 times. Though it's my overall favorite ski area anywhere, May skiing is strictly an afterthought to them. If you want service after April go to Mammoth.
 
Tony Crocker":3nu1un70 said:
One would think this construction could have started in June and still be done by November 1.
It's a lot easier to drag up heavy equipment on sled behind a snowcat than loading it on trucks...trucks that wouldn't be able to use the work road till it dried out and desaturated enough.

From Snowbird's perspective, at this point, they're talking about inconveniencing a few hundred passholders (who will buy a pass next season anyway) for a total of 11 more scheduled days of operation and maybe 4 - 8 more after that if they go through June.
 
Admin":3d3zyav2 said:
Day 55: What a nasty little nuisance new snow makes.

On the bright side, Sunday was our last chance to ski lift-served Mineral Basin for the season.

Snowbird's site now says "Mineral Basin will be open until noon on on May 13 and 14." http://www.snowbird.com/ski_board/spring.html

At least there will be something to ski in the morning, I'll probably pop up for a few runs before I head out to the airport.

Snowbird has apparently rolled back the Tram opening to 8am to offset closing the mountain at 2. Of course, nothing on the front side has been enjoyable until about noon or so.

I thought Sunday was pretty nice, which just goes to show you how desperate an easterner can be in May.

Monday we got some rain and then a few inches of snow, which set up a layer of bulletproof ice that rivaled Cannon or Wildcat in NH for Tuesday.

-Coleman
 
Funny...Marc_C just emailed me the same thing:

Snowbird's website":242wzheb said:
*May 8 to 14:
*Operating lifts will be the Tram and Little Cloud. NO ACCESS to Peruvian Gulch. Lift ticket price will be $35.00. Hours of operation will 8:00 am ? 2:00 pm. Mineral Basin will be open until noon on May 13 and 14.

*May 15:
*Snowbird is CLOSED to skiers and riders during the week. The Week Ends Only schedule until the end of the season.

*May 20 and 21:
*Operating lifts will be GadZoom and Little Cloud. NO ACCESS to Peruvian Gulch. Hours of operation will 8:00 am ? 2:00 pm.

*May 27, 28 and 29:
*Operating lifts will be the Tram, GadZoom* and Little Cloud (*conditions permitting.) NO ACCESS to Peruvian Gulch. Hours of operation will 8:00 am ? 2:00 pm.

Interesting. They apparently are responding slightly by opening Mineral this weekend for the morning, but curious that they're not running GadZoom. Also curious that they're not running the Tram for the 20-21.

Molecan, it looks unlikely that I'll get up there until Sunday.
 
Admin":m5o4n3rf said:
Interesting. They apparently are responding slightly by opening Mineral this weekend for the morning, but curious that they're not running GadZoom. Also curious that they're not running the Tram for the 20-21.

Mineral closes early in the spring for two reasons:
1) During daytime heating, wet avalanche danger typically goes from moderate in the morning to considerable or high in the afternoon. Couple that with the direct southern aspect of the Basin along with all the stuff above it that can slide (last Saturday a small slide covered most of the Path to Paradise cat track at 11:30a - they closed the area at noon) and noon seems about right.

2) After noon, the snow just gets unsupportable back there.

The Tram is down for scheduled maintenance from 5/15 - 5/26.

At this time of year, Snowbird has, at most 2, qualified lift crews.
 
Admin":30dye0rq said:
Frankly, by removing the Gad Chutes, South Chute, Wilbere Bowl,...
Update: this isn't the big deal that it seems to be. Don't know if you made it up this past weekend, but on Saturday, I wouldn't have skied any of that even if it was open! Between the rapid melt out of the chutes with a lot of rocks and roots starting to show and new avi debris atop the old avi rubble, it all looked distinctly unpleasant. The half dozen or more runs we made out by the Bookends and just after the Hillary Step were just fantastic! South Chute would have been survival skiing at best.
 
Sunny exposures just get crushed this time of year if they are steep. Remember that in the usual case of north exposure the steeps take less sun than the flats. With south exposure it's the opposite. Note that MarcC describes the good Mineral Basin skiing out by the Bookends and Hillary Step, not down the SE facing liftline of the chair.

And recall when I was out skiing with you a year ago that Wilbere Bowl had slid all the way into Big Emma.

This is the reason Jackson Hole is so bad in the spring if it gets warm.
 
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