We have never asked if gpaulski has his own boots, I don't think. One more issue to be examined by an instructor perhaps.
Brighton/Solitude v. Sbird/Alta
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And another big red flag. Most of us would say it's very hard to make much progress without your own boots, along with whatever bootfitting tweaks are needed to dial in both comfort and responsiveness.gpaulski":8htwkbyr said:
In fairness, It doesn't seem right to rip someone living in the DR for not owning ski boots. OTOH it also doesn't seem logical for someone at this level of development to be obsessing about LSG's of 1,000 vertical or more, or visiting expert weighted places like Snowbird, Jackson, Crested Butte or the top of Big Sky.
OTOH it also doesn't seem logical for someone at this level of development to be obsessing about LSG's of 1,000 vertical or more, or visiting expert weighted places like Snowbird, Jackson, Crested Butte or the top of Big Sky.[/quote]
Mr. Crock, I've valued all your advice and criticism, but, in this case, you can stick it sideways.
Mr. Crock, I've valued all your advice and criticism, but, in this case, you can stick it sideways.
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Tony Crocker":ccmkr08w said:
Yeah GPaulSki, skiing is not about having fun with friends in a beautiful setting. It's about obsessing over endless spreadsheets, criticizing decisions made hundreds of miles away, counting how much vertical feet of powder you ski and telling people you post on the Internet.
socal":ccmkr08w said:
Agree with socal, boots are your most important investment. Hope to do a few runs with you on your Montana stretch!
The price of the boot shouldn't be your concern, the right fit should. You'll be in SLC, I'm sure someone here would recomend a great shop to go to and get boots you'll love and have a few days to get them dialed in. You're spending $1000s on this trip, waiting till the end of your season after your big trip to UT/MT/WY so you can save a few hundred on a pair of boots you should have for many years seems like a bad move. Just buy them you'll be happy you did.
Socal has it exactly right. What is the price of good boots vs. lifts and lodging at ski areas where you're capable of skiing maybe 1/4 of the terrain with rental equipment and who knows what level of instruction? It's totally putting the cart before the horse.
to be complaining about the price of boots yet have no problem throwing down for lift tickets and lodging during the most expensive week of the ski season at places like Telluride, Crested Butte and Big Sky.
Anyone else here think that gpaulski's using varied rental boots all these years might have something to do with his difficulty turning skis any longer than 150cm?
Socal is also right about SLC being an excellent place where you can probably demo a wide selection of boots, with the demo price being applied to whatever you buy. The shop will also be able to make adjustments after your purchase, so they should be working perfectly by the end of the trip.
Coldsmoke may not know that gpaulski started asking these questions here in 2005. That's a very long time to be taking trips most seasons, seeking advice from numerous experienced skiers and ignoring most of it. It has nothing whatsoever to do with spreadsheets and vertical foot counts.
My experience is probably more relevant to gpaulski that most who post here. I have very poor natural athletic talent and learned to ski as an adult with a typical for me learning curve slower than most people, starting off with blowing an ACL on my second day on skis. And I made my fair share of newbie mistakes, most famously skiing at Mt. Baldy in May without sunscreen.
But when I decided to pursue skiing anyway, I took a few lessons, read a couple of instructional books and bought new boots during my first serious season in 1978-79. Two years later I bought custom orthotics for the boots. Almost every experienced skier will tell you exactly what socal said, that boots are the key piece of gear, and a lot of them will tell you that the custom orthotics are very important too.
Gpaulski can believe me or not. He's welcome to take this subject over to the gearheads and technique geeks on Epic (where he's been asking the same :dead horse: LSG questions) and see what reaction he gets there.
It'sgpaulkski":396mof7f said:
to be complaining about the price of boots yet have no problem throwing down for lift tickets and lodging during the most expensive week of the ski season at places like Telluride, Crested Butte and Big Sky.Anyone else here think that gpaulski's using varied rental boots all these years might have something to do with his difficulty turning skis any longer than 150cm?
Socal is also right about SLC being an excellent place where you can probably demo a wide selection of boots, with the demo price being applied to whatever you buy. The shop will also be able to make adjustments after your purchase, so they should be working perfectly by the end of the trip.
Coldsmoke may not know that gpaulski started asking these questions here in 2005. That's a very long time to be taking trips most seasons, seeking advice from numerous experienced skiers and ignoring most of it. It has nothing whatsoever to do with spreadsheets and vertical foot counts.
My experience is probably more relevant to gpaulski that most who post here. I have very poor natural athletic talent and learned to ski as an adult with a typical for me learning curve slower than most people, starting off with blowing an ACL on my second day on skis. And I made my fair share of newbie mistakes, most famously skiing at Mt. Baldy in May without sunscreen.
But when I decided to pursue skiing anyway, I took a few lessons, read a couple of instructional books and bought new boots during my first serious season in 1978-79. Two years later I bought custom orthotics for the boots. Almost every experienced skier will tell you exactly what socal said, that boots are the key piece of gear, and a lot of them will tell you that the custom orthotics are very important too.
Gpaulski can believe me or not. He's welcome to take this subject over to the gearheads and technique geeks on Epic (where he's been asking the same :dead horse: LSG questions) and see what reaction he gets there.
Apologies, I was busy wading through some anti-Obama Facebook spam originating from SLC.gpaulski":2syov4nl said:
It is interesting to see the normally mild-mannered Tony getting openly annoyed on a forum.
Actually I did buy my boots once, 2003 in Lincoln, VT while wasting a day at Okemo. Technicas something or other, fitted, worked well but not "wow" IIRC.
But didn't ski for 5 years, went to clean them, and brittle is little to what i found. Snap, break. Still have liners.
I hear y'all re boots, we'll see how it goes.
Best!
But didn't ski for 5 years, went to clean them, and brittle is little to what i found. Snap, break. Still have liners.
I hear y'all re boots, we'll see how it goes.
Best!
Storage may be a challenge in the DR. Do NOT store boots in a garage, keep them in your house away from windows where excessive heat and UV will contribute to making them brittle.gpaulski":29sojlwf said:
The other common rookie mistake (which I made in 1979) is to buy boots too large that feel comfortable in the shop but won't after the liners pack out from use. Every boot should be "shell-tested" by putting your foot in the boot shell with the liner removed to verify the appropriate size.