Acidchrist
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On a lighter note Tony, did the patrol boys give you a nice, smooth, fast ride, and, glad to hear you're fine as well.
Mammoth, April 12, 2008
- Thread starter Tony Crocker
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J.Spin
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Tony, thanks for putting together the details of your adventure for the rest of us. It was very unfortunate that it happened, but the discussion has been informative. I had no idea that broken ribs could lead to such serious complications. I've bruised ribs many times (don't think I've ever cracked or broken them that I know of), but I've found it takes several weeks for the pain to subside and get things back to normal. As was mentioned, having to do any coughing or sneezing is certainly the worst part that I've experienced, so hopefully you won't have to deal with any of that while they're healing. In terms of every day tasks, getting out of bed in the morning has always been the most painful part for me. One positive aspect of the process is discovering which positions actually work for doing things like sleeping and other common things with the least amount of pain. Good luck on a speedy recovery.
-J
-J
Acidchrist
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Also, stay away from funny people; laughing sucks when yo ribs are busted up!
I'm sure the patrol ride was fine. It was not fun for me because I could not get any painkillers until I got to the hospital.
I'm sure there are gradations of injury (bruises, hairline fractures, cracks, displacement, etc.) as JSpin mentions. This would explain those people on Epic who were out skiing with their broken ribs. That is not me, at least for a while. And Jspin is right; getting out of bed sucks.
I finally managed to drive this morning, took the camera in to be sent back to Canon. It will be out of commission 4-6 weeks, similar to me.
I'm sure there are gradations of injury (bruises, hairline fractures, cracks, displacement, etc.) as JSpin mentions. This would explain those people on Epic who were out skiing with their broken ribs. That is not me, at least for a while. And Jspin is right; getting out of bed sucks.
I finally managed to drive this morning, took the camera in to be sent back to Canon. It will be out of commission 4-6 weeks, similar to me.
Tony, hope it is easing up. Don't crash on meds, even antihistamines. You get a DUI if they take your blood, they assign the equivalent.
I have had rib fractures, but, not as severe a mechanism or injury or course. But, I have a very high pain tolerance, too high. I just become inhuman in my mind and it works. I don't think it is healthy psychologically to be able to do that. But, it works.
Hope you are better. YOU, Tony Crocker are REALLY ill if you can't even think of skiing. This is a serious sign for the self-proclaimed ski addict. Perhaps a bullet proof vest and waiting for skiers and boarders to pass, not trusting them as far as they can be a risk to you will cure you! How about an iron lung around you, then ski down! Carol
Yes, guys tension pneumo can cause cardiac tamponade. Cardiac tamponade is not easily treated in the field. Tension pneumo can be with a large bore needle on the affected side usually in to the 2nd ICS midclavicular line on the affected side in the face of hemodynamic compromise and assumed tension pneumo with out an X-Ray. It is always so cool to see the immediate results in the ER when this is done.
Check out this link from ThoracicTrauma.Org.
Then for entertainment this fun link on survival in the snow is worth the effort. After the trailer, it goes automatically, just wait. I bet you never knew how your car parts can save your feet, eyes, etc.!!
http://videos.howstuffworks.com/discove ... -video.htm
I have had rib fractures, but, not as severe a mechanism or injury or course. But, I have a very high pain tolerance, too high. I just become inhuman in my mind and it works. I don't think it is healthy psychologically to be able to do that. But, it works.
Hope you are better. YOU, Tony Crocker are REALLY ill if you can't even think of skiing. This is a serious sign for the self-proclaimed ski addict. Perhaps a bullet proof vest and waiting for skiers and boarders to pass, not trusting them as far as they can be a risk to you will cure you! How about an iron lung around you, then ski down! Carol
Yes, guys tension pneumo can cause cardiac tamponade. Cardiac tamponade is not easily treated in the field. Tension pneumo can be with a large bore needle on the affected side usually in to the 2nd ICS midclavicular line on the affected side in the face of hemodynamic compromise and assumed tension pneumo with out an X-Ray. It is always so cool to see the immediate results in the ER when this is done.
Check out this link from ThoracicTrauma.Org.
Then for entertainment this fun link on survival in the snow is worth the effort. After the trailer, it goes automatically, just wait. I bet you never knew how your car parts can save your feet, eyes, etc.!!
http://videos.howstuffworks.com/discove ... -video.htm
The link wasn't direct, but with some search I suspect this was the one: http://www.trauma.org/index.php/main/article/399/
It was consistent with my treatment. "since the management of rib fractures is determined by their clinical significance rather than by their number or position, dedicated rib views are never indicated." Thus the comments, "You broke 2, maybe 3 ribs." The focus of medical attention is upon one's lung function; once that is OK, the only treatment for the ribs is pain relief meds.
The ~3% pneumothorax was gone in this past Thursday's checkup X-ray, and the next day I stopped taking Vicodin, now just on the OTC painkillers. Worst pain after the first couple of days, by far, is a couple of times I've sneezed.
It was consistent with my treatment. "since the management of rib fractures is determined by their clinical significance rather than by their number or position, dedicated rib views are never indicated." Thus the comments, "You broke 2, maybe 3 ribs." The focus of medical attention is upon one's lung function; once that is OK, the only treatment for the ribs is pain relief meds.
The ~3% pneumothorax was gone in this past Thursday's checkup X-ray, and the next day I stopped taking Vicodin, now just on the OTC painkillers. Worst pain after the first couple of days, by far, is a couple of times I've sneezed.
Sorry to hear about your injury Tony, and best wishes for a speedy recovery. I can sympathize; I broke my shoulder at Mammoth last season in a similar wreck, and unfortunately the painful recovery took over 9 months. Fortunately it's at about 95% of where it was now and will never be the same again, but hey, could've been worse.
Hopefully your healing won't take that long!
Hopefully your healing won't take that long!
Sharon
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Garsh, where have I been? (mostly trying to keep my mind off skiing, since my season is over. Apparently Acid Christ still has his mind on it even though his season is over as well.)
Tony, I'm sure by now you are feeling much better. Sorry to hear of your potentially season-ending event. At least you got in a nice season of skiing this year.
A few years ago, Bubba and I were at Snowbird. It was a big powder day. After the interlodge was lifted we hit the Gadzoom woods. Bubba got bashed by a snowboarder in the ribs on the first run. He has pretty good tolerance for pain, but barely made it down. Luckily we were staying at The Cliff Lodge, so I brought him back to the room. Gave him some Ibuprofen and said "Sorry Honey...I have to go out and shred some pow". He understood.
A few years after that, the Rocket Scientist that he is, stacked a cooler on top of a dining room chair to change a light bulb. His socks slipped off the cooler and he came tumbling down, nailing the corner of the cooler with his side. When I found him, he could hardly talk because he was in so much pain. I had to call an ambulance. The doc in the ER said after viewing the x-rays "you righteously broke 3 ribs, one in 2 places". Gave him a shot of demerol and wrote him a prescription for percs and sent him home. He was miserable for a few weeks. Laughing and sneezing was the worst for him. THere isn't much they can do for rib injuries besides medication.
Tony, I'm sure by now you are feeling much better. Sorry to hear of your potentially season-ending event. At least you got in a nice season of skiing this year.
A few years ago, Bubba and I were at Snowbird. It was a big powder day. After the interlodge was lifted we hit the Gadzoom woods. Bubba got bashed by a snowboarder in the ribs on the first run. He has pretty good tolerance for pain, but barely made it down. Luckily we were staying at The Cliff Lodge, so I brought him back to the room. Gave him some Ibuprofen and said "Sorry Honey...I have to go out and shred some pow". He understood.
A few years after that, the Rocket Scientist that he is, stacked a cooler on top of a dining room chair to change a light bulb. His socks slipped off the cooler and he came tumbling down, nailing the corner of the cooler with his side. When I found him, he could hardly talk because he was in so much pain. I had to call an ambulance. The doc in the ER said after viewing the x-rays "you righteously broke 3 ribs, one in 2 places". Gave him a shot of demerol and wrote him a prescription for percs and sent him home. He was miserable for a few weeks. Laughing and sneezing was the worst for him. THere isn't much they can do for rib injuries besides medication.
Tony can let us know if these are correct:
http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121402
http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121402
That was an entertaining list, mostly quite true. I'm glad I didn't read it the first few days :lol: .
My doc gave several warnings about the prescription pain meds potentially causing constipation. Fortunately that did not happen.
If a lung has any collapse they do want you doing deep breathing exercises, thus hitting the pain meds hard enough to tolerate that.
Now that there is minimal pain while sedentary, I do get rudely reminded if I try to pick up anything heavier than about a gallon of milk with the wrong arm.
Sneeze is still the worst though.
My doc gave several warnings about the prescription pain meds potentially causing constipation. Fortunately that did not happen.
If a lung has any collapse they do want you doing deep breathing exercises, thus hitting the pain meds hard enough to tolerate that.
Now that there is minimal pain while sedentary, I do get rudely reminded if I try to pick up anything heavier than about a gallon of milk with the wrong arm.
Sneeze is still the worst though.