Ski the east

releasetom

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committed fernie guy thinking eastward (tried lemasssif last year and was fairly impressed). Am flexible re time. Mt. Whiteface sort of has my fancy. Is there enough terrain there for 4 days ? all comments or alternatives appreciated. For frank What do think of massif du sud?
 
Massif du Sud is quite smaller than Whiteface and quite smaller than the big Massif. <BR> <BR>It has 1312' of vertical (400 meters) and 25 trails. But 7 of the 25 trails are some of the best ones in the east. <BR> <BR>Massif du Sud has big snowfalls and it rarely gets warmer than 32F in winter, so they don't lose their snow. The elevation is pretty fair too, with a base elevation of 1700' compared to the 50' of the big Massif. <BR> <BR>The main mountain (right) has some cruiser terrain. Quite flat on top, it gets enough steep for a good distance after, but this side is not extremely exciting for us, except the combo 16a and 16b which are some really nice spaced glades. <BR> <BR>The real game is on the left mountain. Average steepness of 35 degrees on 1000' high. This is steep steep steep and it looks to stay forever. (in the eastern standards of course). The "5" is the only not-gladed trail of the area and it's a supersteep bump, rock and powder field... very incredible to ski. It's actually my 4th favorite trail in the province. The "8" is a gigantic glade, long as the Everglade of Jay Peak, as it starts from the summit to reach the bottom of the left mountain, just beside the end of the "5". The 4, 6 and 7 are some supersteep glades, just like the #5, but all gladed. The 2 and the 3 are very hidden and tough to find, so they're some powder spots with great steepness and a ton of powder of course ! <BR> <BR>I guess Marc Guido also have his comments to do about the mountain <IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":)"> <BR> <BR>But as I said in the beginning of the message, this is a little mountain, in the New England's standards.
 
Whiteface is a big mountain, to be sure, but it's tall and narrow. I agree that I'd try to mix up a couple of days there with something across the lake: Jay, Stowe, Smuggs, Sugarbush, or MRG. <BR> <BR>Releasetom, I trust that you saw my article on Massif du Sud here at FTO. If not, it's <A HREF="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/massifdusud.htm" TARGET="_blank">here</A>. Frankontour has described it well.
 
Yes....the Crown Point Bridge (a little north of Ticonderoga) or the Plattsburg/Grand Isle Ferry. <BR>I'm in agreement w/Marc...check out Jay, Stowe, Whiteface, and MRG/Sugarbush.
 
I like Whiteface a lot. It is in my top 4 with Stowe, MRG and Sugarloaf (a bit further East). Jay and Sugarbush are also great, can't go wrong there either. <BR> <BR>I think (from what I have heard about it) that Whiteface is similar in style to Nakiska. <BR> <BR>Meaning: mostly hard-pack (what people in the West might call icy), nice high speed-groomers. The exception to this is of course, The Slides and Empire (not open, yet this year?).
 
Not enough for 4 days in my opinion. Whiteface is not as tough or steep as it's rep, unless it's icy when your there. Try it but then keep heading east for MRG and stowe. Jay is also worth a day - more if there's snow.
 
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