Utah beta, please

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Hey folks....I know there are a litany of Utah posts out there, however, time is of the essence as I will be departing for a trip early next week.

Looking for some good info on where to eat and what to see.......Already made my decision on where to ski.

Looking for information such as:

-Where to get a dark beer and good eats in Park City
-Where to get a good burger in the SLC, Ogden or Park City
-Good Mexican
-Good Bar nachos
-Good spots for Apres'
-Something to do on a down day (Mormon Tabernacle, Promontory spike, 9 mile canyon, Bonneville flats?)

Any and all help would be much appreciated.

If it helps narrow down searches, I am staying in Sandy.

Thanks!!!
joe
 
Gurus":2sryk8vd said:
Where to get a dark beer and good eats in Park City
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Squatters Roadhouse, Wasatch Brewing Co.

Gurus":2sryk8vd said:
Where to get a good burger in the SLC, Ogden or Park City
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The Star Burger at the Shooting Star Saloon in Huntsville (near Powder Mountain and Snowbasin). The experience is nearly as tasty as the burger, and while the former won't give you coronary artery disease, the Star Burger will. Near the Cottonwood Canyons I'm told that the garlic burgers at the Cotton Bottom are killer, but I have no personal experience.

Gurus":2sryk8vd said:
Good Mexican
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Red Iguana. Don't miss this one. Arrive early or late. Fridays and Saturdays are tough. Be prepared to wait outside for a table no matter what time you go. http://www.rediguana.com/

Gurus":2sryk8vd said:
Good Bar nachos
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The 2nd floor tavern at Goldminer's Daughter at Alta.

Gurus":2sryk8vd said:
Good spots for Apres'
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Depends on where you're skiing! For Powder Mountain/Snowbasin, see the aforementioned Shooting Star. Park City: Damned near anywhere. Snowbird: 25-cent apres ski wings at the Wildflower in the Iron Blosam, or $1.50 tacos at the Mexican joint whose name I cannot recall at the moment (the only Mexican joint). The Tram Club is another option. For Alta, it's all about beers on the patio at Goldminer's Daughter, or upstairs in the 2nd floor tavern if the weather's not conducive to sitting outside.

Gurus":2sryk8vd said:
Something to do on a down day (Mormon Tabernacle, Promontory spike, 9 mile canyon, Bonneville flats?)
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All sound good to me.

And welcome to FTO Liftlines, Joe!
 
Excellent, excellent reply Admin!!! =D>

Thanks for the detailed info, and, thanks for the welcome to Liftlines.

I really appreciate it!!!
 
Enjoy your trip! And be sure to let us all here know how it goes.

Oh, and one more thing: some of the apres-ski joints mentioned above are "private clubs" under Utah's liquor laws, but don't let that dissuade you. Think of a three-week temporary membership as a cover charge that only one of you has to pay (you can bring up to three "guests" along as a member). Typically these temporary memberships cost $4-5, although swankier places command higher membership rates.
 
Admin":30a8q9p4 said:
Think of a three-week temporary membership as a cover charge that only one of you has to pay (you can bring up to three "guests" along as a member).
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Pssst! A member can sponsor up to six guests.
 
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Marc_C":32el5fd9 said:
Pssst! A member can sponsor up to six guests.
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I stand corrected.
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Hardly a big deal! I doubt all the commissioners on the DABC would be able to accurately recite every alc. bev. rule. (There are the ones we're exposed to as customers, but a whole other metric crap-load that relate to the establishments. Ever notice how you never see a server without a name tag anywhere any alcohol of any kind is served, even at Alf's at Alta? There's a fine for the establishment if a server isn't wearing his or her name tag, and DABC regularly conducts undercover inspections/stings.)

Going back to the OP request for beta, re the alcohol laws: we can expend a lot of 1's and 0's going over the most pertinent ones here or simply say....

Just go with the flow and just do whatever the server says you can and cannot do, no matter how different it may seem from what you're used to. Just shrug and smile! Pretend you're in a foreign land, with curious laws and customs.

Maybe you'll be asked to stand and drink on the other side of a dividing table. Perhaps you'll have to place a drink order with a server, who will eventually hand it to you, instead of directly getting it from the bartender. Sometimes a drink might seem a small quantity, thanks to the limit of 1.5oz of primary liquor in a mixed drink (although many bars are still using the former limit of 1.0oz) which is measured by an automatic metering device - no measuring by eye here.
 
yeah Red Iquana!! We take visitors from the Philly area there, and they usually declare that they've never had real Mexican food prior to this experience.

They all buy t-shirts too. Guess that's part of the reaction.
 
If you do decide to visit Nine Mile Canyon, (which will take a FULL day.) my website has a pretty good mile by mile guide.

http://www.outdoorsinutah.com/ninemilecanyon-exploring.htm

Nine Mile Canyon is actually more like 50 miles, so it will take you a while to see it all. Hill Air Force Base has a pretty good aeronautical museum, if you're into that kind of stuff. Antelope Island isn't a bad waste of a day as well, you get a different view of the city from there.

Have fun in Utah!
 
And don't forget State liquor stores...where you can buy the real stuff, its just a bit expensive....but you have to drink less of it so who cares.
 
kingslug":22u1qvwb said:
And don't forget State liquor stores...where you can buy the real stuff, its just a bit expensive....but you have to drink less of it so who cares.
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Not necessary, IMO. Our local microbewers/bottlers (Uinta, Wasatch, Squatters) do an amazing job with 4% beer (it's technically 3.2%, but that's by weight, not by volume which is the way every other state measures alcohol in beer. 3.2% by weight is the equivalent of 4% by volume).

If you do decide to buy beer at the State Liquor Store, not all of it is hideously priced. As Marc_C so often points out, you have to remember where you are. Bottles of beer, which are essentially glass and water, are very heavy and therefore expensive to transport. Stuff that doesn't have to travel far, such as Sierra Nevada or Anchor Steam, is quite reasonably priced and likely not much different than what you pay for decent micros where you come from. Stuff that by comparison is swill, such as Sam Adams, is surprisingly expensive because it's getting transported nearly across the country.
 
Admin":1a9eu9u6 said:
Stuff that by comparison is swill, such as Sam Adams, ...
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Aw man, now you're gonna create a ruckus if any of the eastern contingent wanders in here! #-o
 
Admin":2twwn72b said:
Not necessary, IMO. Our local microbewers/bottlers (Uinta, Wasatch, Squatters) do an amazing job with 4% beer (it's technically 3.2%, but that's by weight, not by volume which is the way every other state measures alcohol in beer. 3.2% by weight is the equivalent of 4% by volume).
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And not all full strength beer has as much alcohol as people think it does. If you're drinking Utah 3.2% (4.0% by vol) beer, how much more would you have to drink in order to get the same amount of alcohol that's in, say, a standard full strength 12oz Bud* that you're used to back East? I've heard some visitors suggest 6oz or even 12oz more. The correct answer? On average, about 0.92oz, or a little bit more than half a shot glass. How about that full strength Guinness that you get on tap? Now that's a real powerful beer with lots more alcohol, right? Full strength Guinness Stout is a little more than 3.3% by weight.

*: I was just using Bud as a very generic sample. In no way am I advocating actually drinking the reprocessed horse piss called Bud, humorously referred to as beer.
 
Well considering the stuff I drink starts at around 7 to 8%, I'm sipping some 11% barley wine now (Monster Ale) 5% to me...is flavored water. And believe me..I don't mind paying a little more for mthe real stuff while visiting you guys, or for that matter drinking the local stuff. I don't get hammered when I'm out by you guys as it doesn't equate to a good experience at 10500 feet. Its hard enough coming from dead sea level!!
 
Sure it is.

From beeradvocate.com: "Despite its name, a Barleywine (or Barley Wine) is very much a beer, albeit a very strong and often intense beer!" For more, see http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style/19

Perhaps more to the point of this thread, however, at least one travel (food?) writer at this EC rag seems to think SLC has a beer scene worth writing about: http://travel.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/tr ... eer&st=cse

Given that many of the world's more interesting beer styles average ETOH content significantly higher than 4% ABV, the apparent requirement that draft beers not exceed this threshold has got to pose a bit of a challenge for brewpubs, craft brewers and serious beer geeks in UT.

Oh well, I guess not everywhere can be Wisconsin. :wink:
 
flyover":294tbd0m said:
Given that many of the world's more interesting beer styles average ETOH content significantly higher than 4% ABV, the apparent requirement that draft beers not exceed this threshold has got to pose a bit of a challenge for brewpubs, craft brewers and serious beer geeks in UT.
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Oh, it does. But as stated above, they've met the challenge exceedingly well.
 
kingslug":33edosfn said:
Marc_C":33edosfn said:
kingslug":33edosfn said:
Well considering the stuff I drink starts at around 7 to 8%, I'm sipping some 11% barley wine now (Monster Ale)...
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And technically not beer.
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But lets not get technical....this is drinking [-X
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Oh barley wine is 100% beer....nothing is left out. Hops, malt, yeast, just more malt mostly and a longer fermentation time, hence the higher alcohol content.

Now mead..thats a whole other story.

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