Utah beta, please

Gosh, you guys are bickering over mindless dribble. Seriously, is barley wine a beer? Does Utah's beer stinks because the alcohol content is 4%-6%?
Look, utah's beers work for me just fine. Furthermore, if you want to get tanked you can do so quicker with wine or whisky. Seriously, you can't have it all. For great consistency of snow and fabulous terrain, I think 4%-6% beer would be a minor, and I mean minor issue. It's not as if they don't have high quality imported wine. Now that would be a travesty.

You can't have everything: i.e. don't expect a good bagel outside of new york, but don't expect skiing with the quality of Utah's outside of Utah.
 
don't expect a good bagel outside of new york, but don't expect skiing with the quality of Utah's outside of Utah.
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Yes, you can bring food and wine to Utah, but not mountains to NYC. And the local food, wine and culture in SLC is improving and can improve more. But the mountains and snow near NYC will suck forever. :brick:
 
Tony Crocker":1qhm2eof said:
Yes, you can bring food and wine to Utah, but not mountains to NYC. And the local food, wine and culture in SLC is improving and can improve more. But the mountains and snow near NYC will suck forever. :brick:
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Well, if we enter another little ice age, the snow may not suck all that much. I wonder what the skiing would have been like during the 19th century, when the east river routinely froze over. I've seen photos of my great-grandfather where in may there were no leaves on the trees. The mountains on the otherhand.... you can't do anything about that.

As a born and raised new yorker, I still remain skeptical that the local food, wine and culture in SLC will ever come close to that of NYC. I am biased, so do take this with a grain of salt, but frankly, for food, wine and culture, NYC is by far and away the best place in the country. But you are right tony:
The mountains and snow near NYC will suck forever. :brick:
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:cry: :cry: :cry:

Although, I would argue that the Daks don't suck, but they ain't close.
 
for food, wine and culture, NYC is by far and away the best place in the country.
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No argument there at all. I've just observed over the past 40 years that this gap has gradually narrowed in many cases. When I was a kid L.A. was considered a dining and cultural wasteland compared to S.F., much less NYC. When I started skiing 30 years ago, Aspen was considered the only destination ski resort with fine dining competitive with the big metro areas.

Not sure about wine. Aren't there still some issues about shipping across state lines? I have to believe that in terms of both price and availability we do better here in CA than NY for wine. Since we have a local wine industry, California laws have always been wide open, no state stores, "fair trade" laws etc. There has been cutthroat competition in the wine business out here at least since I became interested in the 1970's, led then by Trader Joe's in its formative years. The entrepreneur founder of Trader Joe's lived next door to my parents while I was in high school and college.
 
Tony you would be surprised how far the NY state wine industry has come. I will freely admit that our reds are not up to the standards of some of the higher quality reds you find in California. However, our whites are pretty darn good. Being as our climate is very similar to the Alsace region of france it is not surprising that you find very high quality Reislings and Gewurztreminer. We also, along with ontario, produce some of the best ice wines in the world. The wine culture here has really come a long way in a short time. Just ask Sharon, she lives in the heart of wine region.
 
I drank a lot of Uinta brewing's Cuthroat Ale, and while it is tasty, I could never even fake a buzz from it. I ended up drinking martini's which were much more effective. At least back in NY, I can drink a few Sam Adams and be worried about driving home.

One day I stopped at the state liquor store and bought a magnum of Yellow Tail Shiraz (from Australia) for $12.99...which was good for 2 nights without martinis.
 
Sharon":1a1n52p8 said:
I drank a lot of Uinta brewing's Cuthroat Ale, and while it is tasty, I could never even fake a buzz from it. ... At least back in NY, I can drink a few Sam Adams and be worried about driving home.
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:bs:

Samuel Adams Boston Lager is 4.67% alcohol by volume. Cutthroat is 4% alcohol by volume. One bottle of Sam Adams has precisely .56 oz. of alcohol, while one bottle of Cutthroat has precisely .48 oz. of alcohol, a difference of a ridiculously small 0.08 oz. of alcohol between the two. Drinking 14 oz. of Cutthroat would deliver the same amount of alcohol as a 12 oz. Sam Adams.

The difference is entirely in your head.
 
Damn....looks like you guya are going to get another 18 inches by Tuesday night...to hell with the beer!!! 4 more days to go! Wish I was there now though!
 
rfarren":6bjstgut said:
our whites are pretty darn good. Being as our climate is very similar to the Alsace region of france
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True dat ^^^. My favorite Rieslings and Gewurztraminers are from Konstantin Frank on Keuka Lake.

You guys need to get real jobs... enough of the East/West bollox, sheesh.
 
jamesdeluxe":1g7v8wib said:
rfarren":1g7v8wib said:
our whites are pretty darn good. Being as our climate is very similar to the Alsace region of france
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True dat ^^^. My favorite Rieslings and Gewurztraminers are from Konstantin Frank on Keuka Lake.

You guys need to get real jobs... enough of the East/West bollox, sheesh.
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Konstantin Frank is a great winery.
 
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