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Actually that statement of Tony's is not at all what have rise to this whole brouhaha. In fact it was this:

Tony Crocker":2u6iceuw said:
admin":2u6iceuw said:
we're now in for a long dry spell under a ridge of high pressure, which is nothing unusual for January in the Wasatch
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45 year Alta Stats:
Month Avg Std. Dev
Nov 77.59 43.39
Dec 96.78 48.94
Jan 95.15 40.43
Feb 88.80 26.83
Mar 93.46 34.47
Apr 78.03 37.62

From the above we would conclude that December is the most volatile winter month most likely to see "a long dry spell under a ridge of high pressure." February/March are the most consistent with January falling in between.
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That is precisely what the quotes from Kobernik and Eubanks both refute.

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Added to today's weather-induced list of "things I hardly ever, if ever, see in Utah," they just closed the runways at Salt Lake International due to the icing.
 
Well don't blame me, haven't been to Utah yet this year...but the most amazing thing I ever saw was the amount of accidents one year on my way back to the airport during a snowstorm that reached the valley..I counted about 20...WTF..AND I thought NY drivers where bad...
 
kingslug":15h8asc5 said:
...but the most amazing thing I ever saw was the amount of accidents one year on my way back to the airport during a snowstorm that reached the valley..I counted about 20...WTF..AND I thought NY drivers where bad...
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Recall that a lot of Utahans come from CA, AZ, NM, Mexico, the Pacific Islands and other warm places and may have only seen snow in photographs and on the mountains above SLC, let alone having never driven in it. Also, we use significantly less salt and sand than is typical in the Northeast. Look at the number of 20 and 30 year old cars without a spot of rust on them.
 
Marc_C":39i4ycy5 said:
Also, we use significantly less salt and sand than is typical in the Northeast. Look at the number of 20 and 30 year old cars without a spot of rust on them.
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Although one thing that we do use, which seems to be extremely effective, is a brine solution. The salt trucks will spray this solution on the road rather than spread salt/sand. It's really cheap (recall that giant salty mud puddle immediately to our northwest), it works more quickly, and they even pre-treat the roads by spraying it immediately before a storm.

Mind you, that's the state. I live in an unincorporated portion of Salt Lake County and the county does the most half-assed job of plowing my neighborhood that I've ever seen. Curb to curb? No way, all we get is one pass down the middle of the street. That is, we get that when they do it, which is often not until a few hours after the storm actually quits. Until then, you're on your own.

Also I heard that a Frontier jet slid off the tarmac immediately before they closed the airport today.
 
Admin":3tkfq6c2 said:
I live in an unincorporated portion of Salt Lake County and the county does the most half-assed job of plowing my neighborhood that I've ever seen. Curb to curb? No way, all we get is one pass down the middle of the street. That is, we get that when they do it, which is often not until a few hours after the storm actually quits. Until then, you're on your own.
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It's Salt Lake County. Get a real 4x4. At least one per household. It's a requirement, just like owning a dog in Boulder CO.
 
Marc_C":1n8dzc99 said:
It's Salt Lake County. Get a real 4x4. At least one per household. It's a requirement, just like owning a dog in Boulder CO.
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Yeah that's a troll but I'll bite anyway. My car does just fine up the hill, thank you very much. But that new Tacoma to replace the dear departed Land Rover (RIP) isn't far off.

This glaze on the snow from today's freezing rain is giving me flashbacks of New England. I need to go medicate.

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Admin":2udoypi7 said:
But that new Tacoma to replace the dear departed Land Rover (RIP) isn't far off.
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The wheelbase of the Tacoma is a little long for some trails in Moab. If you want Toyota, consider an FJ instead.
 
Admin":2u41ltzx said:
Marc_C":2u41ltzx said:
Also, we use significantly less salt and sand than is typical in the Northeast. Look at the number of 20 and 30 year old cars without a spot of rust on them.
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Although one thing that we do use, which seems to be extremely effective, is a brine solution. The salt trucks will spray this solution on the road rather than spread salt/sand. It's really cheap (recall that giant salty mud puddle immediately to our northwest), it works more quickly, and they even pre-treat the roads by spraying it immediately before a storm.

Mind you, that's the state. I live in an unincorporated portion of Salt Lake County and the county does the most half-assed job of plowing my neighborhood that I've ever seen. Curb to curb? No way, all we get is one pass down the middle of the street. That is, we get that when they do it, which is often not until a few hours after the storm actually quits. Until then, you're on your own.

Also I heard that a Frontier jet slid off the tarmac immediately before they closed the airport today.
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That 'brine' is almost certainly magnesium cloride- which is a liquid salt. Seems to be a common mountain region theme for the single pass down residential streets and only after the main roads are 100% cleared at the end of a storm (aka same on this side of the divide).
 
They pre treat the roads in NY too..But the plows do both sides of the street..My wife and I were really scratching our heads at poor road maintenance in the SLC valley.
 
jasoncapecod":1yvtbw8p said:
They pre treat the roads in NY too..But the plows do both sides of the street..My wife and I were really scratching our heads at poor road maintenance in the SLC valley.
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It depends on the street. Tertiary or quaternary residential streets are done last. Main arteries and school bus routes get priority. Eventually, both sides of the street do get done, but the initial pass is frequently just down the center or up one side and down the other in the case of dead ends (which are numerous). But as Marc alluded, it depends on which town you're in (and their associated snow removal budget) or if you're in unincorporated Salt Lake County. When you look at the valley, you're actually looking at around 10 towns and cities plus a patchwork of unincorporated areas.
 
We generally don't get the second pass.

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Well it would be nice if we got some snow to plow...I'm off to Whistler for a week so .....I don't care..at the moment...
 
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