Utah's biggest storm of the season?

Admin":tuyqeuii said:
Agreed. I was bummed when the sky brightened this a.m. and I saw a distinct lack of cloud cover. In fact I nearly switched my day off for today. But for now it looks like enough snow will likely fall this afternoon into tomorrow morning that all should be well for a powder morning on Friday. Fingers crossed!


Yeah keep em crossed HARD...sun came out for like 5 min yesterday just before noon, and ANYTHING it hit was instant mank....

Ill let you know if I can swing yet ANOTHER ski day..ha.

M
 
It's always fun to watch you guys bicker about Alta vs. the Bird. :sabre fight:

And also,
:worthless:

(I just wanted to use those cool graphics, but seriously...)
 
jtran10":1ww5a78i said:
It's always fun to watch you guys bicker about Alta vs. the Bird. :sabre fight:

And also,
:worthless:

(I just wanted to use those cool graphics, but seriously...)

Pics??? who the hell had time to stop and take pics????

M
 
God, it must be so tough to time these windows in the Wasatch.

Can the subsurfaces really be something to fret about in a multiday storm such as this one?
 
SoCal Rider":232sczwv said:
Can the subsurfaces really be something to fret about in a multiday storm such as this one?
Depends on the density of the new snow and the firmness of the subsurface, but yes, it can be an issue. Several seasons ago we had a warm, sunny spell that crusted most everything followed by 18" of new. Problem was temps had dropped into the teens and the new snow was about 5% - I scraped bottom hard and loud on every turn on a steep east aspect.
 
I scraped bottom hard and loud on every turn on a steep east aspect.
That's why you should have been on a steep north aspect. More of those at Snowbird. :stir:

Seriously, most of you guys have the combined passes and on powder days you want the best available. Between terrain closures, sun aspects, etc. it seems so obvious to cherry pick the best of 4,700 acres rather than limit oneself. Alta closing on Sunday is a lame excuse for confining oneself there (especially after 50+ days there already) rather than taking the best of both worlds.
 
Marc_C":lnsi47tb said:
SoCal Rider":lnsi47tb said:
Can the subsurfaces really be something to fret about in a multiday storm such as this one?
Depends on the density of the new snow and the firmness of the subsurface, but yes, it can be an issue. Several seasons ago we had a warm, sunny spell that crusted most everything followed by 18" of new. Problem was temps had dropped into the teens and the new snow was about 5% - I scraped bottom hard and loud on every turn on a steep east aspect.

I was emphasizing the multiday aspect of a storm cycle. Sounds like there's been enough April sun between snow breaks to wreck things some. Being someone who doesn't get out of SoCal much, that "problem" is just a little hard for me to fathom.
 
Tony Crocker":15yjr7iy said:
I scraped bottom hard and loud on every turn on a steep east aspect.
That's why you should have been on a steep north aspect. More of those at Snowbird. :stir:
He said knowing absolutely nothing about the particular day mentioned.

Tony Crocker":15yjr7iy said:
Seriously, most of you guys have the combined passes and on powder days you want the best available. Between terrain closures, sun aspects, etc. it seems so obvious to cherry pick the best of 4,700 acres rather than limit oneself. Alta closing on Sunday is a lame excuse for confining oneself there (especially after 50+ days there already) rather than taking the best of both worlds.
Again, completely ignoring the non-quantifiable intangibles that might make one favor Alta over Snowbird.
 
Marc_C":1h2m8xnd said:
Again, completely ignoring the non-quantifiable intangibles that might make one favor Alta over Snowbird.

Seems to me it's tough to argue that following the rope drops at Altabird isn't better than following the rope drops at either one on it's own. I know everyone loves Alta, and if I could find the same quality untracked at both I'd just stay on the Alta side. I guess my point is, why not hammer out your favorite runs (assuming they're at Alta) then just follow the rope drops around both areas? Also, seems pretty tough to pass up a few untracked tram laps first thing in the morning when most of the good stuff at Alta requires a bit more work and will probably be untracked after you finish up at the Bird.

If it was staying colder this weekend I'd be thinking about booking a flight out for the weekend although it'll be tough to pass up 80 degree and sunny beach days this weekend.
 
socal":g90utzqi said:
Seems to me it's tough to argue that following the rope drops at Altabird isn't better than following the rope drops at either one on it's own. I know everyone loves Alta, and if I could find the same quality untracked at both I'd just stay on the Alta side. I guess my point is, why not hammer out your favorite runs (assuming they're at Alta) then just follow the rope drops around both areas? Also, seems pretty tough to pass up a few untracked tram laps first thing in the morning when most of the good stuff at Alta requires a bit more work and will probably be untracked after you finish up at the Bird.
The implicit assumption being that untracked is the only consideration and that one is willing to dash in aggro mode all over 4700 acres to find it. That's not necessarily the case - for a lot of people. Especially when there are only 3 more lift served days at Alta.
 
Part of the reason for my comments/suggestions is that they seem to mirror BobbyD's strategy on powder days. To each his own, but if there's anyone's "powder management" skills I would like to emulate, they would be BobbyD's. Not that I could actually keep up with him. :lol:
 
Good day today on both sides of the rope.

Tram to the now filled in chute above hanging bowl.
Tram to Blady
Tram to Baldy
Wildcat from Baldy
Keyhol(y)e
Tram to wilbur bowl
Tram to hanging bowl again

For those that were curious.
 
Sounds like there's been enough April sun between snow breaks to wreck things some. Being someone who doesn't get out of SoCal much, that "problem" is just a little hard for me to fathom.
It shoudn't be. Ever ski Baldy's chair 4 on a sunny new snow day when they don't get it running until noon? January on chair 4 = March/April in Mineral Basin.

I know everyone loves Alta
No, admin loves Alta, and naturally he's accumulated a posse of like-minded friends. There are probably as many people (such as the Chatter Creek retirees or our Iron Blosam group) who are as single minded about Snowbird, but admin doesn't see them much, nor do they post here. Alta's skier visits were declining relative to Snowbird before Collins was upgraded. I suspect among both locals and the expert skiing community there is a close split in preference. Along with a substantial "best of both worlds" contingent like BobbyD and salida too, judging from the above post.

I have gained a greater appreciation of Alta from admin's tours. Those have moved me more in the direction of "best of both worlds," along with the Collins upgrade.
 
Marc_C":1en775ri said:
The implicit assumption being that untracked is the only consideration and that one is willing to dash in aggro mode all over 4700 acres to find it. That's not necessarily the case - for a lot of people.
Steeper! Deeper! Faster! More vertical! GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!

Filthy Americans... always consuming. 8-[
 
Steeper! Deeper! Faster! More vertical! GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!
I plead guilty on powder days. But I don't live half an hour away from 231 inches of snow in the past 24 days. :mrgreen:
 
jamesdeluxe":3b7xl47o said:
Marc_C":3b7xl47o said:
The implicit assumption being that untracked is the only consideration and that one is willing to dash in aggro mode all over 4700 acres to find it. That's not necessarily the case - for a lot of people.
Steeper! Deeper! Faster! More vertical! GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!

Filthy Americans... always consuming. 8-[
Well, there is a distinct risk of being trampled on a powder day if you're too slow getting off the tram. :lol:
 
Marc_C":9o5hbj4c said:
jamesdeluxe":9o5hbj4c said:
Marc_C":9o5hbj4c said:
The implicit assumption being that untracked is the only consideration and that one is willing to dash in aggro mode all over 4700 acres to find it. That's not necessarily the case - for a lot of people.
Steeper! Deeper! Faster! More vertical! GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!

Filthy Americans... always consuming. 8-[
Well, there is a distinct risk of being trampled on a powder day if you're too slow getting off the tram. :lol:

Or if you're too slow on the High Traverse :stir:
 
Tony Crocker":5c6iegod said:
Steeper! Deeper! Faster! More vertical! GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!
... But I don't live half an hour away from 231 inches of snow in the past 24 days. :mrgreen:

There's the rest of the context for my "hard to fathom" comments; soon to be 700 for the season. I had assumed that this was a 10"+ every day thing. I checked Alta's snow history page and found that it hasn't been that consistent.

Yes, I was on Ch. 4 a lot of the day Feb. 8.



(minor threadjack over)
 
consuming is a great thing . both ski areas have their own sides as to feel . it all depends on how much consuming one wishes to partake in . myself i feasted on as much as possible yesterday in all of the 4700 acres that was open using all open lifts. really not alot of competetion for any of it. people go across the hillside at there speed .
 
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