Yellowstone Club files for bankruptcy

OK, the problem was an apparent conflict from either one of our ad providers or one of their advertisers' copy causing a conflict with our CMS page generation. I've fixed it for now, and it should be working to display complete stories for all. I'm trying to narrow it down to which one of the two it is.
 
Thanks, admin, for fixing the problem. I can now open the news stories with Internet Explorer. And thanks, Tony, for the links to those stories. Very interesting reading about the problems at YC.
 
Oddly enough it was an ad run from the U.S. Tennis Assn. that wasn't playing nice in the sandbox with our CSS, and only in IE. Fortunately I was within the geo-targeting of the ad campaign, which allowed me to ultimately diagnose the problem. I don't know how I would've figured it out if I wasn't able to see those ads. In any event I simply canceled the ad campaign.
 
only ads i ever see is from backcountry.com and their affiliate sites (sac,tramdock,brociety,wm)
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As discussed in the Prop. 8 thread, the ads are driven not only by topic but by the user's location as suggested by his/her IP address. Snowboard247 lives in Mammoth, so no surprise which ads he's seeing.
 
Tony Crocker":2z64e3xy said:
only ads i ever see is from backcountry.com and their affiliate sites (sac,tramdock,brociety,wm)
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As discussed in the Prop. 8 thread, the ads are driven not only by topic but by the user's location as suggested by his/her IP address. Snowboard247 lives in Mammoth, so no surprise which ads he's seeing.
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One of the worst ways to target ads. I live in Sandy, UT, but when I go to, say, Mapquest, my default map is of the Denver area. Why? I have Earthlink DSL, but it's provisioned by Covad. My IP location resolves to the Covad servers....in Denver.
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Marc_C's point is why I absolutely despise Traffic.com's recent redesign. Not only is it stupidly javascript top-heavy, but when pulling it up from work it defaults to traffic in Oklahoma City, which is were the server is based, even though I cookie my site registration and it's of course in SLC.

As for the ads for Backcountry.com and subsidiaries, they're affiliate ads used as remnants to fill unsold inventory, and not in any way geo-targeted, so Tony's point is off base anyway. We only make revenue on those on a CPA basis when someone clicks through and makes a purchase but you tight-wads never buy anything!
 
jasoncapecod":3vey42r2 said:
makes a purchase but you tight-wads never buy anything!
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I just clicked on one of your ad links and made a purchase....
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I feel kinda bad, I've ordered tons of stuff from backcountry.com this year and last. Obviously if I knew you got some $'s for the referal I would have clicked through a link on here.
Next time I'll click through your banner before I buy.
 
Well, I can't do anything that could be construed as inducing you to do so. And thanks, Jason!
 
socal":2k46ci43 said:
jasoncapecod":2k46ci43 said:
makes a purchase but you tight-wads never buy anything!
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I just clicked on one of your ad links and made a purchase....
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I feel kinda bad, I've ordered tons of stuff from backcountry.com this year and last. Obviously if I knew you got some $'s for the referal I would have clicked through a link on here.
Next time I'll click through your banner before I buy.
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Ditto! We are here to help you out!
 
Partial update on the status of the Yellowstone Club. There was a member/patroller at Broken River who is on Yellowstone Club's ski patrol. How's that for diversity in ski resort ambience?

2008-09 was the season following the divorce and the lawsuit/bankruptcy. No new members joined that season. The past season has seen considerable growth in membership. Scot Schmidt is now Yellowstone Club's "skiing ambassador," though Warren Miller is still around too. My high school classmate Charlie Callendar is also still there in marketing. The patroller thinks recent marketing under new CrossHarbor Capital management to some high profile people has been quite effective. Total membership is about 370, and the patroller said Blixseth's original objective was 800 (we were told 580 in 2001) and thought the Club would lose some of its exteme low density ambience if membership got as high as 800. The patroller had no idea what level of membership needed to be reached for the club to be self-sustaining without ongoing real estate sales.

Most members have extended family and/or entourages that they bring to the Yellowstone Club who ski at no additional charge other than the member's annual $16k fee. Daily skier count during the past Christmas week was was estimated at 3,000 and perhaps 500 during a good week in February. These were by far the highest skier counts since the Yellowstone Club has been open despite the subpar snow year.
 
This week the Judge Kirchner laid the blame (no surprise) for the debacle squarely upon founder Tim Blixseth:
http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/ju ... t/C35/L35/
And here's a good post-mortem of the whole saga:
http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/my ... b/C35/L35/
The above article":nxykkzmk said:
One day alone in 2001, the hills crawled with 50 ski journalists invited by the Blixseths to test the powder.
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Not sure if that's a reference to this: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4249
They did host about 50 NASJA members, but half of us before the annual Big Sky meeting and half after. On my day we did not see Blixseth, though we did spend quite a bit of time with Warren Miller.

At any rate this website looks like the best source to follow ongoing developments: http://www.newwest.net/index.php/topic/sub/C589/L35/
 
I am kinda bullish on Big Sky.

From the real estate wreck, I think they will likely come to some sort of operating agreement with:
1. Moonlight Basin
2. Yellowstone Club

Skier density is so low there - much better than Telluride, Jackson, Steamboat, Snowbird.

Of any major resort - the best skier day to acreage ratio.

Let's just get on with the process....it will be too expensive/no value for current Yellowstone homeowners. There is only depreciation on their assets. Why not lower yearly op costs? The layout is so difficult that few skiers would impact current crowds.
 
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