The Yankees haven't won a World Series since 2000, but Red Sox Nation's inferiority complex goes merrily on.
New to the East
- Thread starter moresnowplease
- Start date
jasoncapecod
Well-known member
and it should.. :stir:
Geoff
New member
jamesdeluxe":jemzcgxj said:
I was one of the few putting in a plug for NYC in the Bend, OR thread that deteriorated into a NYC hate-fest.
In a "new to the east" thread, I guess it's on-topic to point out that the Yankees / Red Sox rivalry is the best in professional sport. The two teams have a 162-game pennant race where every game is meaningful. With that kind of intense rivalry, some trash talk can be expected.
This New York Times writeup on bus service to Vermont might be useful:
http://frugaltraveler.blogs.nytimes.com ... nt-by-bus/
Mount Snow, Stratton, and Okemo are a snooze but the price really can't be beat for a day trip. I do find the writer to be pretty far off on their facts. They write, "And yet it’s rarely busy — Killington, about 24 miles north, draws the crowds, leaving Okemo’s 19 lifts with short lines." The reality is that Okemo does over 600,000 skier visits. Killington under their new ownership has lost skier visits to the point where they have only slightly more skier visits but with double the acres and significantly more uphill capacity. Killington was pretty ugly when it saw a million skier visits. It's pretty civilized at 650,000. I guess it's all moot. If you don't have a car, you're probably not going to Killington unless you hook up with a group trip. I'd be looking into ski clubs to try to get hooked up with weekend bus trips to better places than you can get to with day trips.
http://www.metnyski.org/brooklyn.html
http://www.skisite.com/clubsList.cfm?state=NY
icelanticskier
New member
i gotta say that the seafood platter and chowdah at rays was absolutely delicious after 4 hours of surfing today. oh, and it was an 8 hour work day as well. felt like a vacation day though. seafood and a purdy sunset over the marsh with temps in the high 70's while dining on the deck. perfect.
rog
rog
And some time... you may find a LOT of powder here on east coast. Do some backcountry and if the rain dont come ruin it all, you'll have a pow stash for a long time. We had pow almost that deep for 3 weeks where we filmed this video, but we are further north in Quebec... And in the spring a lot's of resort close before you start seeing some grass, so there is a lot of possibility to find some great corn too.
[skitube2]http://www.youtube.com/v/5dp14b-F_iI&hl=en&fs=1&[/skitube2]
If it doesn't work --->http://www.youtube.com/v/5dp14b-F_iI&hl=en&fs=1&
[skitube2]http://www.youtube.com/v/5dp14b-F_iI&hl=en&fs=1&[/skitube2]
If it doesn't work --->http://www.youtube.com/v/5dp14b-F_iI&hl=en&fs=1&
Bluebird Day
New member
Welcome to the East Coast! On top of your 8,000' drop in altitude, you are coming to the weather challenged East during an El Nino year. I gave up wishing for epic powder days on the East Coast years ago and started hoping last minute flights to the West as storms came on shore in the West. It is very possible, but you have to be flexible. East Coast skiing is great for endurance and leg strength. But leave the FAT boards (100mm+) home. Keep your buddies in Mammoth Lakes close and keep a sleeping bag, tooth brush and your powder skis out there for the quick trips.
Patrick
Well-known member
Bluebird Day":3s3wnosu said:
Well, I cannot speak about the skiing out of NYC and getting some powder compared to your past "local". Mammoth Lakes is at the mountain, so New York or 99% of other metropolitan areas isn't going to able to compete with that it term of convenience and access on a powder day.
Bluebird Day":3s3wnosu said:
Epic Powder Days in the East due exist, but you have to be able to place yourself at the right spot and look behond the trail map. Northern Vermont is often mentioned for a good reason and it would seem to be the most accessible place from NYC.
As for access to it from NYC, I believe that Geoff and Rob have addressed that point.
Bluebird Day
New member
I agree that epic powder days from an East Coast standard happen a few times a season. However, last season not withstanding, big powder days on wide-open terrain like at Mammoth cannot be had on the East Coast, and you will need an adjustment of your expectations. Also, big mountain boards (190's) are not practical for the tight lines in Eastern tree skiing. No aspen groves out here. Buy yourself some mid-fats with lots of tortional beef and rip some nice turns on the steeper groomers. Also, watch the wether in the Berkshires. One of the best NE powder days I've had was in the X-Mas storm of 2001(?) at Jiminy Peak, 26" and nobody on the mountain. As said earlier in this thread, look at the closer smaller resorts and time the weather. Have Fun!
J.Spin
New member
Bluebird Day":3upfnco0 said:
Patrick":3upfnco0 said:
Patrick makes a good point in that you’re certainly within striking distance of one of the great powder skiing pockets in the country. Unless you are going to restrict your skiing to locales very close to NYC, or you can frequently grab flights on short notice to places that are getting hammered, I wouldn’t be without your fat skis. Fat skis are generally a quiver staple around here (Northern Vermont) for folks that spend a substantial amount of time off piste, because more often than not there’s going to be powder available if you know where to go. In fact, with the very dry upslope snow that we frequently receive, ski floatation can be even more important here than it is in many areas of the country. If I could only have one ski around here it wouldn’t be a super fat, but it would certainly be on the fat side of mid, and my second pair would be fatter. More than anything else, additional width is the reason I’m looking to get an additional pair of Telemark skis. Even if you are restricted to skiing on weekends and can only get as far north as Killington due to transportation constraints, you’ll probably have more need for your fats locally unless you can frequently fly to select storms elsewhere.
-J
icelanticskier
New member
Bluebird Day":gcgv5a0q said:
big powder days on wide-open terrain like mt washington can be had on the east coast. wide open, up to 2000 vert above treeline and 4300 vert runs are possible. there may be no mechanized lifts to get you there, but the skiing can be truly epic more often than most would think. an inch or two of new snow on the summit can give you a foot or more of wonderfully wind deposited powder skiing in some pretty western like big terrain if ya don't mind skinning and have some snow know.
vermont pow days are great and often, but it is so nice to have the big open terrain of the high whites to roam around get yer turn on.
rog
Bluebird Day
New member
Guys... I'm new to this board, but I don't get it. Here's a guy who is relocating from Mammoth Lakes to the North East and is asking for some advise. I'm not dissing the East Coast experience, I grew up here, but now I ski equal time between the NE and Wyoming / Utah and have skied Mammoth and can tell you that they are two completely different experiences. I never find the need to have anything wider than 100mm wide in my East Coast quiver and every experience I had at Tucks (haven't skied it for 20 yrs) was wind blown boiler plate. Yes, I'm sure that there are some great powder days on Tucks, but I also know that that pitch is a prime example of a major slide area (highly crystalized snow, etc.). Our new West Coast friend will have a great experience on the East, just a different one.
J.Spin
New member
I skipped mention the terrain in the whites because I hadn't gotten the sense that backcountry was a big priority in this thread, but Icelantic knows the lowdown in the Whites very well and speaks from experience. I didn't comment on the need for big mountain boards for the same reason, since I think Bluebird Day is correct in saying they're not all that practical for most of the lift served skiing around here. Shorter and wider is certainly the way I like to go for most of the lift-served off-piste around here, although when you bring the Whites into the picture that changes somewhat. I think the plethora of reports from the "FamousInternetSkiers" and their friends clearly speaks to a need for big mountain skis in the whites if you are skiing at the level they do - they even seem to use them in their off piste exploits at Stowe, although they are certainly not your average skiers.icelanticskier":1zv16e5t said:
-J
icelanticskier
New member
hey bluebird day, i like yer name btw. of course the guys experience coming from the mammoth area is gonna be different than what he'll find out here and i don't expect him or most other folks to roam about above treeline all winter like i do and some others scoring big untracked pow days in the whites. all i'm sayin is that we do have that terrain available and it goes WAY beyond what you found in tucks. there is a ton of mellower terrain up high all over the range where you can ski pow on different aspects depending on the storm track and wind. the deepest pow days that i had this year were at the gulf of slides in february. i've spent a couple of full winters in the wasatch and travel to ski to other locales so i have a good idea of what epic powder skiing is and it's nice to not have to leave new england to get it often. i do have a purdy flexible schedule though which helps immensly. i ski on atomics with fritchis for all of my skiing 176cm @ 128-86-114. east/west-no need for any more ski for me.
rog
rog
Marc_C
Active member
To say nothing of proximity - a definite difficulty for an NYC resident. Also, I don't remember getting a feel for the OP regarding backcountry/AT. If you lack the gear/knowledge/or inclination, that eliminates a lot of the terrain you're talking about.icelanticskier":3nigfeg7 said:
Bluebird Day
New member
Marc,
All true. You point out the big difference between the East and West. In the West, you can ski lift access untracked all day long. In the East, you have to be willing to earn your turns, and I am not willing to do that to ski through snags. I can ski powder in Catherines or the below Devil's Castle all day at Alta and never have to do more than a short traverse.
I really enjoy skiing on the East Coast (it's my backyard), but it is a different animal from out West. That does not mean any worse, just different.
BBD
All true. You point out the big difference between the East and West. In the West, you can ski lift access untracked all day long. In the East, you have to be willing to earn your turns, and I am not willing to do that to ski through snags. I can ski powder in Catherines or the below Devil's Castle all day at Alta and never have to do more than a short traverse.
I really enjoy skiing on the East Coast (it's my backyard), but it is a different animal from out West. That does not mean any worse, just different.
BBD
icelanticskier
New member
Marc_C":3l5em84g said:
it was mentioned that the east didn't offer wide open terrain similar to what's found in locations out west. i simply offered that there is in fact big vert wide open alpine terrain in the east where there is excellent powder skiing to be had. the lack of gear/knowledge/or inclanation, does not eliminate the terrain at all. it's still there and always will be. for the record, i would not live here for the resort skiing alone. the prezzies and the like make all of my ski dreams come true for up to 8 months of the year.
wow, won't be long till we're sliding again. i last skied perfect corn just 12 days ago in the ravine and all i can think about is sliding on snow! maybe chili in a month.
rog