Salt Lake City

[Sharon]

soooo, does anyone wanna go in on a group purchase of a home/ski gettaway home in the benches area of slc?

Amy may want to get in on this, and tele-Jon is a good candidate. I have always wanted to do such a thing. Only problem is, I don't have anything to invest, and after my house renovation, I will have used up most of the equity on my home. So, that is a no-go at this point for me. I will be lucky to make annual visits at best, and I am lucky enough to have friends there who enjoy my company.

This whole thread reminds me of how much I dislike cities in general....traffic, pollution, hot pavement, etc etc. The reason I could not move to SLC full-time is because I dislike living in cities. I don't like it when people can see in my windows and backyard. I like my privacy, my woods, meadows, pond and solitude, right where I live. I don't need to drive to the country to get away, I live in the country where I can drink spring water from my well and watch the bluebirds, orioles and herons fly, have the occasional bear visit and have the dogs tree a raccoon (ok, the last two I could live without). Not only could I not afford a 4 bedroom McMansion on the bench, I could not even afford a run-down shack in Sugarhouse. So, there is really no point in desiring to live in SLC. I love the skiing, that is for sure, so I will definitely visit as often as possible as it is the most economical ski vacation with the best snow that I can think of.

I'm considering my month in SLC for mid-spring, even though it isn't "prime time" I think it will provide enough powder days to keep me happy and prolong my season. I find that I get the most depressed in mid-April, so, if I can get out there in April and spend a month, I can lengthen my season. If I go out Jan-Feb, it will be rough coming home, closing out the Greek Peak molehill at the end of March and sulking through April or spending tons of money on gas to get to the mountains. I think it makes more sense for me to go out during the late season. I just hope next season is a good one, though I know that this season will be a tough one to beat.

 

[icelanticskier]

well, if ya wait till late season to go then you'll know what kind of season they have had and can decide on whether it's worth the trip, one things fer sure, if we have a less than desireable season out here while it's dumping out there and you wait and go out there for less than desireable wasatch conditions, well that's the big risk you take. temps are key out there and in april yer ridin a very fine line between very, very good, and not so good.
rog

 

[salida]

i know! we could call it, "firsttracksonline eastcoast invasion station"
rog

I'd surely be the caretaker, make sure the hot tub is getting good use, etc etc.

All this talk about cities, sure it is a city, but don't forget if you drive east out of park city you can be into some pretty wild places in just a half hour. Sure there is pollution and traffic and other city related problems in SLC, but there is also world class skiing right out the back door. It is hard to find the mixture of a big enough metro area to have industry and ski areas so close together...

 

[Admin]

It is hard to find the mixture of a big enough metro area to have industry and ski areas so close together...

Which, in a nutshell, is why I'm here.

 

[icelanticskier]

admin, i like the new pic. one thing i gotta know though. are you cross blocking ski dog, tele jon, or did you run over some glue? :lol:
rog

 

[Admin]

admin, i like the new pic. one thing i gotta know though. are you cross blocking ski dog, tele jon, or did you run over some glue? :lol:
rog

I'm practicing for your next visit to Foofyland. :twisted:

 

[icelanticskier]

:lol: my next visit may be sooner than you think, don't put them 200's away just yet. craig and i may have to kidnap you for some summer uinta or (unita as i like to call) turns. skins may not even be needed.
rog

 

[Admin]

craig and i may have to kidnap you for some summer uinta or (unita as i like to call) turns. skins may not even be needed.
rog

Sounds like a plan! Mirror Lake Highway makes laps easy.

 

[rfarren]

Well I must concede that the traffic commuters deal with getting into NYC is pretty bad. The rankings are pretty solid evidence. However, I've always thought you had to be dumb to commute into the city from the burbs in a car. (Hopefully someday they'll get the commuter toll set up, and that will keep those annoying-turning on red-pedestrian ignoring-moronic New Jersey Drivers out of the city.)

By traffic I meant the quantity of cars, not necessarily how fast or how slowly the traffic moves. There seemed to be a lot of cars in SLC for a city that size. The roads I experienced were pretty wide and move pretty well, considering the quantity. Per capita I would imagine there are more cars in SLC than the tri-state metro area. I will also say that there a lot of really really big cars i.e. SUVs and trucks.

I will also say that the vast majority of the slow and annoying traffic I experienced was on the west side of 15. I would conjecture that there are some cheaper rents there.

Don't get me wrong, I love Utah. IMHO the best ski experience you can get in North America is in Utah. It is convenient and easy to get to. Value wise, it is a very cheap place to ski, with fabulous mountains, that 95% the time have great conditions.

Nice new picture Admin.

 

[Harvey]

drift...drift....

While the smile is a good thing...I liked the old picture. I like the context. It looked like an adventure.

 

[Admin]

I will also say that there a lot of really really big cars i.e. SUVs and trucks.

That is true. However, remember where we're located. This is the West, land of wide-open spaces, dirt roads, chain restrictions, hauling horses and campers and ATVs and boats, and vast off-road areas. Most folks around here have much more call for a vehicle than tooling around town and driving to and from work. I know plenty of people here who have a econo-box for commuting and a substantial vehicle for weekend pursuits. Personally, anything less than a 4WD truck would severely curtail my recreational activities.

Nice new picture Admin.

Thanks to Bobby last Saturday. Thank you.

While the smile is a good thing...I liked the old picture. I like the context. It looked like an adventure.

Life's an adventure every day, so there will be many more adventures to come. I needed a change.

 

[icelanticskier]

I will also say that there a lot of really really big cars i.e. SUVs and trucks.

That is true. However, remember where we're located. This is the West, land of wide-open spaces, dirt roads, chain restrictions, hauling horses and campers and ATVs and boats, and vast off-road areas. Most folks around here have much more call for a vehicle than tooling around town and driving to and from work. I know plenty of people here who have a econo-box for commuting and a substantial vehicle for weekend pursuits. Personally, anything less than a 4WD truck would severely curtail my recreational activities.

you forgot to mention that the mo's need big vehicles for the big families on the weekly smiths trip. i bet (bring em young) had a huge buggy for the horses to tow.
rog

While the smile is a good thing...I liked the old picture. I like the context. It looked like an adventure.

Life's an adventure every day, so there will be many more adventures to come. I needed a change.[/quote]

 

[Marc_C]

you forgot to mention that the mo's need big vehicles for the big families on the weekly smiths trip.

True enough, but it's not fair to make that point without mentioning that Salt Lake County is only about 49% Mormon at the moment.

 

[Marc_C]

By traffic I meant the quantity of cars, not necessarily how fast or how slowly the traffic moves.

So I guess you should have indicated that your private definition of traffic differs from that of practically everyone else in the country.

 

[icelanticskier]

you forgot to mention that the mo's need big vehicles for the big families on the weekly smiths trip.

True enough, but it's not fair to make that point without mentioning that Salt Lake County is only about 49% Mormon at the moment.

still that high huh? what a world we live in!
:shock:
rog

 

[rfarren]

By traffic I meant the quantity of cars, not necessarily how fast or how slowly the traffic moves.

So I guess you should have indicated that your private definition of traffic differs from that of practically everyone else in the country.

Actually, the definition of traffic, has to do with the quantity of cars. Here is Webster's definition:

"(1): the movement (as of vehicles or pedestrians) through an area or along a route (2): the vehicles, pedestrians, ships, or planes moving along a route."

Oxford American Dictionary:

" 1: vehicles moving on a road or public highway
- a large number of such vehicles"

If you wanted to say "there was congested traffic", or "look, what a traffic jam," you would be using the the noun traffic as a noun with a modifier adjective or noun to describe the traffic's flow. Actually, anytime you see cars on the road you are looking at traffic. Hence, the definition above. So, I'm not so sure how this my personal definition.

 

[Marc_C]

By traffic I meant the quantity of cars, not necessarily how fast or how slowly the traffic moves.

So I guess you should have indicated that your private definition of traffic differs from that of practically everyone else in the country.

Actually, the definition of traffic, has to do with the quantity of cars. Here is Webster's definition:

"(1): the movement (as of vehicles or pedestrians) through an area or along a route (2): the vehicles, pedestrians, ships, or planes moving along a route."

While you're semantically correct, in common usage in American English, when someone says "the traffic was brutal", 99.9999% of the listeners will interpret it as definition #1. When people refer to "traffic", no one really cares about the quantity of cars if they're all moving at the speed limit. I suppose you're one of the outliers that fall in the other 0.0001% (or a New Yorker who likes to argue! :lol: Oh, wait, that's redundant! :twisted: ). I defer to your obviously superior knowledge of SLC traffic. :roll:

 

[Acidchrist]

Admin looks like an, um, eastern RACER in his new pic...

 

[rfarren]

While you're semantically correct, in common usage in American English, when someone says "the traffic was brutal", 99.9999% of the listeners will interpret it as definition #1. When people refer to "traffic", no one really cares about the quantity of cars if they're all moving at the speed limit. I suppose you're one of the outliers that fall in the other 0.0001% (or a New Yorker who likes to argue! :lol: Oh, wait, that's redundant! :twisted: ). I defer to your obviously superior knowledge of SLC traffic. :roll:

I was only commenting on what I saw while visiting. I don't pretend to know the inner workings of city that I've spent limited time in.

Now, I love to argue, but I don't think it's because I'm a New Yorker. :wink:

 

[Sharon]

Marc_C wrote:

True enough, but it's not fair to make that point without mentioning that Salt Lake County is only about 49% Mormon at the moment.

That is one out of every 2 people is Mormon. We have about a 30% Asian population in our little town, and you see them all the time whenever you go out and wherever you go. But unlike Asians, you can't tell a Mormon just by looking at them..unless they are FLDS. Not that it matters that much.

While I am fascinated with Mormonism, while visiting Utah, it doesn't really have much impact on me as a skier/visitor. I do know that for some women who are in the workplace in SLC, having a Mormon boss can be a real issue, mostly because of the cultural differences in the way they view women. Mormon women are "supposed" to be obedient and submissive according to their doctrine. A Mormon man, may have some issue with a confident and assertive non-Mormon woman in his charge. I know that my friend had some issues with this. I don't know how pervasive these sentiments are, but I do know it can be an issue with certain people.

Have the wives of our SLC FTO members had any such issues?