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Maybe someone can clarify if having high status on your U.S. airline exempts you from the luggage fee with the partner but something tells me no.
Delta has tiers of partners. KLM/Air France is the top "Core Global" group, as is Virgin Atlantic for the recent flight to India. I suspect these Core partners will honor Delta baggage status.

We're flying home from Tashkent on Emirates because their website says they allow two checked bags. Needless to say we paid extra bag fees in advance to Uzbek Airways for the Delhi-Tashkent flight.
 
There you go -- the Lufthansa and Austrian Airlines reps on my 2019 trip were correct in trying to assess me the luggage charge. I apologise to them in absentia. That said; I've flown Swiss Air several times on United awards and they never charged me. I guess it's up to the individual airline.

One standard free checked bag in Economy on Austrian, Lufthasa, SWISS and Brussels Airlines, Discover Airlines and Air Dolomiti12Included with Star Gold


Have to look at the star alliance info too. A bunch of other details for Star Alliance crossover with tiers, but United Gold (and above) gets you "Star Gold" tier as well for partner airlines.
 
One standard free checked bag in Economy on Austrian, Lufthasa, SWISS and Brussels Airlines, Discover Airlines and Air Dolomit
OK. As I noted above, it would be hard to believe that Gold doesn't get you this benefit ^^. In any event, I'll never reach that status level without extensive business travel so this discussion doesn't apply to me. I'll carry on with my bankrupt-jetset SOP.
 
, I'll never reach that status level without extensive business travel
My Deta status comes mainly from AMEX credit card spending. However I will get permanent Gold when I become a Million Miler and I’m currently around 970K. Right now I’m Platinum because miles were allowed to accumulate in a couple of the pandemic years when we continued to travel and spend.
 
My Delta status comes mainly from AMEX credit card spending (...) when I become a Million Miler and I’m currently around 970K.
I always thought that Million Miler status was based on miles actually flown (such as world-class road warriors like George Clooney in the movie Up In The Air) rather than credit-card spend but apparently not the case?
 
I always thought that Million Miler status was based on miles actually flown
It is based on miles flown, but for several years Medallion Qualification Miles on Delta also included bonuses based upon credit card spend. Starting in 2024 MQMs no longer exist so going forward it's all miles flown.
 
In any event, I'll never reach that status level without extensive business travel so this discussion doesn't apply to me.
While I travel quite a bit, it is wildly inconsistent. So I end up bouncing tiers all the time. From no status to silver to gold and back down has happened a number of times. I always describe it as when I need to fly, I fly a lot; and when I don't, I really don't. For my career it's been mostly about M&A or big expansions in businesses. I do pretty high level corp finance stuff so when the flying need comes for those deals or expansions it really comes (a significant number have involved going overseas in both directions too), but then if it's standard stable stuff in the biz, I can have relatively little need to be on a plane for business for a couple years before the next 'big thing' comes along.

So I tend to get little consistency and treated with either great upgrades and perks or be at the back of the line like a schlub in alternating years. I always have to think through which stuff I do or don't get since my status changes so often from year to year. Makes it kinda weird for me at times.
 
either great upgrades and perks or be at the back of the line like a schlub in alternating years
They say it's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all but that's not the case with airline status/upgrades. It sucks when you're back in steerage after enjoying travel perks.
 
Hopefully EMSC has a credit card that could help keep him at least Silver in the low travel years.

I have the impression that the Delta AMEX has slightly better status perks than the other cards. I have a decent United miles stash from its credit card but the only perk it gives me is one free bag.
 
Up at 1AM today for 4AM flight Tashkent to Dubai. Recall I chose Emirates for allowing 2 checked bags. The Tashkent flight was not Emirates but a Fly Dubai subsidiary. So they wanted $50 for each ski bag. I argued why we booked Emirates, and they did say we would not be charged again for tomorrow’s flight. Then I handed them my Visa card and they said no we want cash. I said no way I’m getting Uzbek cash out of an ATM when we live halfway around the world. So next he agrees to send me an e-mail with link to a payment portal. The portal says Amex is accepted. 3x I fill out the info hit the pay button and get no error message but a refreshed screen to fill out the info again. So one more try with Visa card and same result. So now I give my phone to Liz and she starts filling in info from her card. At this point the agent says he’s going to give us a break and let us on without paying because we are elderly. Liz thinks the real reason was that I couldn’t do it and that in a traditional majority Muslim country he was embarrassed by forcing a woman to pay.
 
I have a decent United miles stash from its credit card but the only perk it gives me is one free bag.
The free United Club day passes from the credit card are a nice benefit. Between mine and my wife's I have four per year that I use before flights to Denver or Europe. Most major cities have a lounge; hubs have 3-5 of them.

I've mentioned before that the preferred east-coast best practice before flights across the Atlantic is to have a leisurely dinner in the lounge with drinks, take a sleeping pill before boarding, tell the flight attendant not to wake me for meal service, and go to sleep after takeoff. I usually manage to get at least four hours of sleep doing that. Of course, YMMV for west-coast departures given your different departure times and durations.
 
the agent says he’s going to give us a break and let us on without paying because we are elderly. Liz thinks the real reason was that I couldn’t do it and that in a traditional majority Muslim country he was embarrassed by forcing a woman to pay.
Two sobering explanations! :icon-e-biggrin:
 
tell the flight attendant not to wake me for meal service, and go to sleep after takeoff. I usually manage to get at least four hours of sleep doing that. Of course, YMMV for west-coast departures given your different departure times and durations.
While I caved this year so that 4 of us for guys trip will be on the same flight into GVA; in general I refuse to fly to the east coast and then fly to Europe. I strongly prefer Denver direct flights to Europe then transferring there if necessary. I can't sleep through the noise and lights of meal service so prefer to eat on the plane then immediately sleep. Given the longer flight times, I still manage 4-5 hrs of shuteye which is pretty much my minimum to not be miserable on the first day. From Denver to Europe is ~10hrs of actual flying (flights depart ~4-6pm local). Probably 11-ish hour flights from places on the west coast. So much more civilized for sleep time than the cruddy 6-7 hour flights from the east coast where they try to cram two meals in, waking everyone up.
 
cruddy 6-7 hour flights from the east coast
I've never slept more than five hours on a flight in my life so our "cruddy" flights work for me. I always manage to be ready for at least three hours of arrival-day turns.

I can't sleep through the noise and lights of meal service
Sedative + sleep mask + earplugs + a neck pillow if I can't get a trio of open seats -- used to be a given but is increasingly rare.
 
I've never slept more than five hours on a flight in my life
If I slept a total of 4 hrs in total I would be surprised
No sedatives for me thanks (maybe a glass of wine). But, I learned long ago that 'he who sleeps most, wins' on super long flights. I learned that in my late 20's going to Asia (Hong Kong, Singapore, Bangkok, etc...). Probably never slept more than 5 hours at a time either, but generally can get back to sleep in 15-30mins if the plane is dark and 'quiet'. So, say, two 4-5 hr sleep sessions going over the Pacific, and I shoot for 1 session going over the Atlantic...

Of course I've always wondered just how those big meetings actually went/go for the group of guys punching power points together the entire flight on the planes to Asia with zero sleep. I could never function good enough to pull any attempt at that off, but have had seatmates in Biz class doing it all the time heading over to meet with clients and suppliers.

Everyone is different in both habits and what they can pull off on a plane though.
 
in general I refuse to fly to the east coast and then fly to Europe. I strongly prefer Denver direct flights to Europe then transferring there if necessary.
A friend in Denver (not a skier) flew a United itinerary to Zurich that I would've preferred -- depart Denver around noon, change planes late afternoon in Chicago, land in ZRH before 8 am. In addition to being able to ski on arrival day, you're staying on the same airline and the likelihood of delayed/missing luggage is reduced.
 
Denver around noon, change planes late afternoon in Chicago, land in ZRH before 8 am
I'm about week out from depart Den ~11a change in IAD/Dulles and arrive 6:30a in Geneva...

Not looking great for snow surfaces for the next week over the the pond though. Crossing fingers it can change up by the time we get there... Otherwise I'll go back to my hard core "It doesn't hardly ever snow in Europe" diatribe.
 
We are home after the scheduled 16 hour 15 minute flight from Dubai to LAX. It took off 45 minutes late but arrived only 5 minutes late. It was the closest to polar flight I have been on, passing midway between the northern tip of Greenland and the North Pole. It flew directly north from Dubai over Iran, up to what's left of the Aral Sea, then over Russia into the Arctic. Liz circumnavigated the North Pole on a 2008 eclipse flight.

Emirates runs a massive amount of flights out of Dubai, and it sure seemed that most of them left in the morning. We got in line at 6:30 for our 8:30 flight, only to find out 35 minutes later that there was a separate queue for flights to the U.S. At 7:15 we were allowed to the front of the US line due to our schedule. With emigration and security we did not get to the gate until 8:05.

The good news is that Emirates deserves its reputation as far as the actual flight is concerned, a lot of small factors that add up. This was the first time I've been on an Airbus A380, where were in row 82 out of 87 on the lower level. There was a separate ramp from the gate leading to the presumably first class upper level and I saw no connection between the two levels on the plane. There were maybe 15 rows of Business Class in the front of the lower level in 2-4-2 configuration while the rest in economy were 3-4-3. From what I read the upper level is also 2-4-2 business class.

The economy seats were conspicuously wider than in other widebody jets with 3-4-3 configuration. Anybody else been on an Airbus A380? The recline angle seemed normal but the seat moved forward slightly to improve thigh support and made the recline more comfortable. Liz slept more than I've seen any flight, though the prior two days' schedule had something to do with that. After the ski day 2/27 there was a transfer to Tashkent, go to bed 10:30PM, get up 1AM for the flight to Dubai, arrive 8AM and we are up to midnight with tourist activities, then up again 5:15AM for the flight home. I slept about four hours from morning 2/27 to midnight 2/28 and Liz more like two.

Those wider seats also meant a wider screen, and so we both watched 3 movies, also assisted by Emirates' headsets that covered most of the ear and blocked out background noise much better than the ones used by nearly all airlines. It may have been luck but I used the restroom 3x and never had to wait in line for it. Food was above average for an airline. And there was no attempt to surcharge the ski bags, which also made it to LAX, something that does not always happen in my experience.
 
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