Utah weather

EMSC":1x8l1n24 said:
Had friends that lived in Phoneix for a couple years and hated it. The only time they could go outdoors to exercise was in the middle of the night when temps came down to all of the 80's. That is too hot of a summer no matter how dry. For me I love days that hit about 90 in Den. Certainly above 95F, it's more like a pizza oven. Dry, but too hot... (for me). Denver (and I'd assume SLC) has only a handful of days in the summer where you feel it is flat out too hot, ...
SLC averages 10 days/year of 100F or greater - much fewer than Phoenix. Another mitigating factor is that in the evening, the cool air from the mountains starts to flow out of the canyons and the breezes pick up, cooling us far faster than Phoenix.

SLC really doesn't have the afternoon T-storms that the Front Range gets in the summer or the monsoon season in Arizona. I should say at least not in the way they express themselves in CO and AZ. We actually do get a fare number of showers or proto-thunder storms, but most of the time, since we're drier, it's virga -the rain evaporates before it hits the ground. The Uintas otoh frequently get hit with big boomers.
 
rfarren":249nt29e said:
I thought we were talking about the Wasatch. Are there mountains that preserve snow better?

If we're talking about snow preservation and not necessarily snowfall, then yes, the Uintas beat the Wasatch. They're on average considerably higher and as an east/west-oriented range, 50% of the Uintas face north or north-something.
 
Marc_C":15u3tv7c said:
I far prefer the SLC summers to those in the Northeast.

I wasn't going in that direction. Hot and humid sucks too. Just saying that personally I'm not a fan of "sunny every single day."

Getting back on topic... so skimore sprang for the $750 flight? :wink:
 
The high pressure in the eastern Pacific tends to park itself off California all summer but is farther south off Mexico during the winter. Most directly ocean-influenced areas at 15-25 degrees latitude (Caribbean, northern Australia, etc.) have wet summer/dry winter climates, with weather systems usually moving from east to west. At 30-40 degrees latitude you get the wet winter/dry summer (so-called Mediterranean) climate, and weather nearly always moves west to east. Many places in the in-between 20-35 degree range can be dry most of the time, and nearly all the world's big deserts are in that range.

So the whole western US is in the latitude zone predisposed to wet winter/dry summer. The storm track from the NW that brings consistent winter snow reaches California in April only about half as frequently as in March, but it reaches the Wasatch about 3/4 as often. These storms are still nearly all snow because of their source. And we all remember these outlier storms from the NW that occasionally dump snow in May or even June.

Summer moisture generally comes from tropical Mexico. The southern 2/3 of Arizona and New Mexico get more precipitation in summer than winter. Some of this moisture gets up to Colorado and even Wyoming I've been told. But it would have to flow east to west to get into California, so our mountains are much drier than the Rockies in summer. From MarcC's description, the Wasatch are borderline. They get some of the summer moisture, but not as much as the Uintas or Colorado.

The Colorado mts are poorly understood.
By me too. They don't line up in a simple N/S line like the Sierra, Wasatch or Tetons. There are a bunch of little microclimates sensitive to the precise direction of storm tracks. From living there a lot, ChrisC has figured out how it works for Telluride.

By the time weather has worked its way through Colorado, there's nothing straightforward about it. I think the Gulf of Mexico is the major source of precipitation east of the Rockies, and that can't be a good thing for those of us who want more snow and less rain.

One virtue of Colorado is that the altitudes are so high that even a tropical storm from Mexico may end up as snow there. Gulf moisture off the plains is the reason for the big bump in April/May Front Range snowfall. And October snow at Wolf Creek is usually the end of a tropical storm. The early December dump that set up this year's banner SW season came from Mexico and thus was high water content and gave those areas a much better than normal early season base.
 
jamesdeluxe":13dtlw93 said:
Marc_C":13dtlw93 said:
I far prefer the SLC summers to those in the Northeast.

I wasn't going in that direction. Hot and humid sucks too. Just saying that personally I'm not a fan of "sunny every single day."
Frankly, neither am I - I like variation. However, sunny nearly every day is a small price to not have to deal with oppressive humidity. Nor do I remember what a 6" rain storm is like.
 
icelanticskier":2v5sgz3h said:
utah sounds like a good place for ya marc. do ya like it marc?
As a matter of fact, yeah. :lol:
Sure, some cultural goofiness to contend with - but I encountered that in NJ and CT as well as most other places, so it's no big deal. If you didn't like the outdoors it might suck, but then I know some folks who are totally non-outdoorsy and they love it as well, so go figure. I mean, there's a reason there are 5 national parks in the state (and 6 more within a half to full days drive), and it's kinda nice having 11K' peaks literally in your backyard.
 
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