Vermont Snow Updates 2008-09

J.Spin

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With regard to the discussion about timely updates on snow conditions, I'll see if this type of thread format will work for this purpose. The update below isn't especially timely or anything, but it relates to the recent snowfall we had around here:

I never got to see what the new snow looked like on Friday morning, but based on the various pictures from the Mad River Valley area it seemed like they might have done better than Mansfield or Camel’s Hump in terms of snowfall. On Friday afternoon I finally got a chance to see the summits of Mansfield and Camel's Hump from Burlington as the clouds started to break up, and at around 3:00 P.M. I could still see white on perhaps the top 500 vertical feet of those peaks. I couldn't get a sense of the snow level on Mt. Ellen from the UVM campus, but the top of Rim Run clearly stood out as bright white. We were also up on Mansfield on Sunday hiking with the boys, and heading from the Nose area to the Chin, the only place that still had snow was on the Chin from about 4,200 feet on up. There were clumps of snow on the krummholz starting very abruptly at that elevation on the Long Trail as we headed north. The amount of snow increased as we hiked the last couple hundred vertical feet to the top of the chin, where there were patches of snow throughout the area. Some patches of snow were even large enough for a few turns if someone had been in need.

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Pictures are also at:

http://www.JandEproductions.com/2008/03OCT08.html

J.Spin
 
As the season approaches and gets underway I suspect that this thread may have legs. Keep at it, J!
 
Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008: Waterbury-Burlington Weather Observations

At around 5:00 A.M. this morning in Waterbury (495’) we had a temperature of 35.4 F, and when I looked outside the precipitation was snow flurries with no obvious liquid precipitation. The flakes were small in the ~1-2 mm range. At that point there was no accumulation on the snowboard or grassy surfaces. Between 5:00 A.M. and 6:00 A.M. the temperature fluctuated in the 35.4 F– 35.6 F range at the house, and when I was leaving at around 6:00 A.M. the snowfall had intensified to the range of light snow, with larger flakes in the ~0.5+ cm range. There was still no obvious mixing of rain in the precipitation, although the intensity of the snowfall did seem to taper off a touch by the time I’d reached the center of Waterbury (~500’). At the Richmond Park and Ride (300’) at around 6:30 A.M. there was light to moderate snowfall, with no accumulation visible on any of the grassy surfaces or vehicles that had been parked in the lot. I did notice what looked like a small (~1/4 inch) accumulation of snow on one of the cars that appeared to have recently pulled into the lot, although I’m not sure where that vehicle had come from. At around 7:00 A.M. at UVM in Burlington (380’) the precipitation was again back to snow flurries.

J.Spin
 
Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008: Midday Burlington Weather Observations

It’s been snowing here at UVM in Burlington (380’) all morning, although it’s only been flurries to occasional light snow at the most. There’s been no accumulation, but all surfaces are wet from the precipitation. There have been a couple of times when cracks of blue sky appeared as well, and as of noontime we’ve got just a few flakes of precipitation coming down. Off to the east the mountains have been obscured by snow and clouds, but there is certainly enough snow up there for a few turns as I’ve seen a couple of trip reports on SkiVT-L already. Powderfreak mentioned that he was heading up to Bolton, so I’m sure he’ll have an update on some snow accumulations above 2,000’ in that area.

J.Spin
 
Wednesday October 22nd. Killington at elevation 2000'. I have an inch of snow on the cars. The snow that was on the grass and leaves this morning has melted. Looking out the window, I can see snow on Superstar and Ovation but the cloud deck is around 3000' so I can only see the bottom 1/3 of the mountain. The cats went out for 30 seconds this morning and have spent the day sulking on my bed. I think they'll be happier Thursday and Friday when it's warm and sunny again.
 
is certainly enough snow up there for a few turns
Just one more week left for Patrick, and the Canadian election is over. Will he scrounge for the dustings of this storm or throw down for Colorado again?????
 
Tony Crocker":22sfephe said:
is certainly enough snow up there for a few turns
Just one more week left for Patrick, and the Canadian election is over. Will he scrounge for the dustings of this storm or throw down for Colorado again?????
The Canadian dollar fell over 2 cents and is around 80 cents US - looks like I'm probably be staying in CANADA this October. :roll:
 
Geoff":3ebm2bid said:
Wednesday October 22nd. Killington at elevation 2000'. I have an inch of snow on the cars. The snow that was on the grass and leaves this morning has melted. Looking out the window, I can see snow on Superstar and Ovation but the cloud deck is around 3000' so I can only see the bottom 1/3 of the mountain.
It sounds like the Killington area had some of the more substantial Vermont accumulations from this event, George Bakos reported 7 to 8 inches of snow at the top of the K-1 Gondola in his report to SkiVT-L.

J.Spin
 
icelanticskier":xcyuxxaa said:
killington and the loaf got about the same amount of snow, but per usual vermont was getting skied up.
Yeah, it seems like an accessibility thing. Even for people down in southern New England I guess Sugarloaf is just that much farther away than Killington (I think it was this forum had some discussion about the Sugarloaf driving distance). It's probably a sweet setup for those that live at the loaf. If I was going to head out and ski the snow from this event, Killington would have been my first choice as well based on the accumulations reports. Killington is about an hour away, but unfortunately our drive to Sugarloaf is horrendous.

icelanticskier":xcyuxxaa said:
here are some pics of killington gettin skied in good snow yesterday.
The picnic table shot is a good one for getting an idea of the snow depth:
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icelanticskier":xcyuxxaa said:
more snow next week?
It seems like more is on the way. Looking at our local NWS forecast, even in the Winooski Valley we've got mentions of snow in the dark hours from Sunday through Wednesday. For the mountains all the lows are in the 20s F through that period, and after that the lows drop into the teens. In the old days, I suspect this would have been one of those seasons where Killington could have done their October opening with this storm and just sailed right into November without closing if they wanted to. Based on the current forecast it looks like they would have been able to make snow continuously up near the peak next week if money were no object.

NWS Burlington, VT
Point Forecast: 5 Miles SW Killington VT
Lat/Lon: 43.64N 72.84W Elevation:3132 ft

Monday Night: A chance of snow showers. Cloudy, with a low around 25. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Tuesday: A chance of rain and snow showers. Cloudy, with a high near 31. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Tuesday Night: A chance of snow showers. Cloudy, with a low around 22. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Wednesday: A chance of snow showers. Cloudy, with a high near 27. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

Wednesday Night: Cloudy, with a low around 18.

Thursday: Partly sunny, with a high near 29.
 
sunday river wants to open on nov 7th and the big k on the 14th. if temps are cold enough i wouldn't rule out another sunday river halloween like last year.
rog
 
I'm surprised that Killington isn't shooting for Veteran's Day "weekend". Vet's Day is on the 11th (a Tuesday). I would consider taking a 4 day weekend if Killington was open. I've done this before. In fact, I've skied with "Sheffy" during one of those events.
 
Any bets on whether Patrick goes for this weekend? After all the suffering and $ spent in SA, what's 10 hours of driving and a couple hours hiking to keep the streak going into another northern season?

I'm surprised that Killington isn't shooting for Veteran's Day "weekend".
POWDR Corp operates their ski areas by the calendar, not the weather. Will anyone else step up to the plate if weather continues favorable?
 
Tony Crocker":tvhp7jpu said:
Any bets on whether Patrick goes for this weekend? After all the suffering and $ spent in SA, what's 10 hours of driving and a couple hours hiking to keep the streak going into another northern season?

I'm surprised that Killington isn't shooting for Veteran's Day "weekend".
POWDR Corp operates their ski areas by the calendar, not the weather. Will anyone else step up to the plate if weather continues favorable?

sunday river will as they did on halloween last year. i wouldn't rule out bretton woods or the bush either.
rog
 
This post doesn't pertain to snowfall for the 2008-2009 season, but I just finished up my summary of our snowfall in Waterbury for the 2007-2008 season so I figured it might interest some that follow this thread. Full details and links to reports on the events are at the 2007-2008 Waterbury winter weather summary page, but I've also posted some of the information below in the form of charts.

J.Spin

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Tony Crocker":21o3l20a said:
The last time I checked this weekend's weather was warm and rain.

That's never stopped Patrick before. July 2007 as I recall.

The last time I saw it rain like today, I was living through a monsoon in Pucon. :shock: There is a different between pouring rain and compact snow versus fresh first snow, one washes away.
 
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