American Election 2024

Tony Crocker said:
One of my MD friends here at Iron Blosam has read that Elon is an avid user of ketamine, which can have significant personality warping side effects.
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I've purposely avoided any written content about him; however, I broke down and read this recent NYT piece, which provides a relatively balanced overview of his career, including that he was a darling of the left until a few years ago.
 
Did the article say that?

In the Big Picture, left/right looks silly cuz normal people have principles. Things like demagogery, aggression, and insurrection are counterproductive. The silly left/right scorekeepers wanna just call it...slightly counterproductive I guess. Lies might become...just slightly untrue.
 
I don’t know what to think. This isn’t even funny anymore.
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Wow.
Elon funds Trump’s way into the Whitehouse.
Trump gives Elon the reins to the nation.
Trump uses the office of the presidency to sell Elon’s cars.
Seriously. This is truly concerning for the whole world.
 
We had dinner with a lovely chap from Texas last night. He too is doing a week with Snoworks. I’m not in his group so we hadn’t spoken a lot before last night. He started the night by apologising for his government. We of course laughed and said the goings-on were good entertainment if nothing else. He was having nothing of us trying to lighten the mood. He’s gay and has fleeting concerns of the possibility that his lifestyle might be outlawed between now and 2028. 😂
 
Here's a NYT article that discusses U.S. travelers being concerned about how they'll be perceived abroad.

I didn't encounter any issues on my recent trip but perhaps that would've happened had locals heard me speaking American English. When I lived in France and Germany 37 years ago during the similarly disliked Reagan administration, I recall Americans sewing patches with the Canadian flag on their backpacks. Some even peppered their speech with "eh?" and pronounced the word "about" as "aboot." Tourist cosplay, I kid you not.

As far as easy behavioral adjustments to avoid upsetting locals, how about making sure that your group lowers the chairlift safety bar? :eusa-shifty:
 
jamesdeluxe said:
U.S. travelers being concerned about how they'll be perceived abroad.
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I doubt in most countries that there would be an issue (we had none outside of restraint bars ;)). Vast majority of folks can distinguish between the US government and average citizens.

Of course if you talk crazy loud and wear a giant red MAGA hat while overseas, that might change the perception of the locals there a little bit.
 
And this -- European countries have begun issuing official travel advisories/warnings about the risks of travel to the U.S. under the current administration. Imagine El Jefe's anger if Canada does something similar!
 
And now for something completely different. . .

I’ll just stick with the facts, as acknowledged by the White House itself today:

So the Vice President, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State, the National Security Adviser, the Director of National Intelligence, the C.I.A. Director, and 11 other Trump Administration officials participated in a group chat on a commercial messaging app, that is not approved for communication of classified information, in which details of plans for imminent military operations were discussed that included disclosure of the targets, the timing, weapons to be used, and the sequencing of the attacks. The chat itself was punctuated with emoji’s such as muscled biceps, fist bumps, explosions, and American flags. What’s more, apparently none of the 17 Administration officials, who are arguably the officials most responsible for national security and the operational security of this country's military, thought to check the 18th phone number on the chat, who, it turns out was not just a journalist, but the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic.

You can’t make this stuff up.
 
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flyover said:
And now for something completely different. . .

I’ll just stick with the facts, as acknowledged by the White House itself today:

So the Vice President, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State, the National Security Adviser, the Director of National Intelligence, the C.I.A. Director, and 11 other Trump Administration officials participated in a group chat on a commercial messaging app, that is not approved for communication of classified information, in which details of plans for imminent military operations were discussed that included disclosure of the targets, the timing, weapons to be used, and the sequencing of the attacks. The chat itself was punctuated with emoji’s such as muscled biceps, fist bumps, explosions, and American flags. What’s more, apparently none of the 17 Administration officials, who are arguably the officials most responsible for national security and the operational security of this country's military, thought to check the 18th phone number on the chat, who, it turns out was not just a journalist, but the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic.

You can’t make this stuff up.
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I’m travelling so not quite across the news like I usually would be. If the above is correct……wow.
 
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tseeb said:
The Secretary of Defense denies this happened so we can never believe anything he says. Many think he should resign.
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I’m travelling so not quite across the news like I usually would be. If the above is correct……wow.
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Yesterday, the National Security Council’s spokesman, Brian Hughes, said this:

“At this time, the message thread that was reported appears to be authentic, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain.”

Today, from the NY Times:

"Representative Don Bacon, Republican of Nebraska and a senior member of the Armed Services Committee, told reporters that the White House should 'be honest and own up' to putting classified information on an unclassified system.

“'It’s a fact,'” Mr. Bacon said. “'Classified information was put out by the secretary of defense. It’s pretty clear,'” he said."
 
flyover said:
Yesterday, the National Security Council’s spokesman, Brian Hughes, said this:

“At this time, the message thread that was reported appears to be authentic, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain.”

Today, from the NY Times:

"Representative Don Bacon, Republican of Nebraska and a senior member of the Armed Services Committee, told reporters that the White House should 'be honest and own up' to putting classified information on an unclassified system.

“'It’s a fact,'” Mr. Bacon said. “'Classified information was put out by the secretary of defense. It’s pretty clear,'” he said."
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Will the defence be “what about Hilary’s emails”?
 
jamesdeluxe said:
You know it's bad when even MAGA cheerleaders like the NY Post are writing about it as a hideous security breach:

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Exclusive | Expert reveals the ‘really scary’ sensitive info and targeting methods shared by Trump’s cabinet in Signal chat

The highly sensitive operational details covered the “method of targeting,” the timeline for the operation and who pulled the trigger on the Houthi targets, according to Dan Meyer, a na…
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Does Rupert/Lachlan really buy into all the MAGA stuff? Or is it just about readership and advertising revenue?
 
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