Holiday Ski Plans, again!

Did you make the call about the car rental before the original pickup time? If so, I'd call the credit card company and dispute the charge. Refusing to let Kylie's aunt pick up the car is unbelievably obnoxious under the circumstances, especially since it sounds like she could have picked it up at the scheduled time or even within the 24 hours. I would be climbing the food chain of that rental car company as high as possible.

Maybe rent a car in SF, possibly doesn't have the peak holiday season demand that SLC does.
 
Did you make the call about the car rental before the original pickup time? If so, I'd call the credit card company and dispute the charge. Refusing to let Kylie's aunt pick up the car is unbelievably obnoxious under the circumstances, especially since it sounds like she could have picked it up at the scheduled time or even within the 24 hours. I would be climbing the food chain of that rental car company as high as possible.

Maybe rent a car in SF, possibly doesn't have the peak holiday season demand that SLC does.
I made the call as soon as I knew we wouldn’t make the time. I even contemplated renting a car from SFO one way to SLC to make the 24 hour grace time but didn’t get much sleep on the flight across the Pacific and I didn’t want to risk driving 11 hours super tired.
We’ve just got flights for tonight. I’ll sort something out with a car when we get in.
 
I've never paid in advance for a rental car
I rarely pay in advance either, just like I nearly always decline the insurance. I made some exceptions last year in Mexico for the eclipse and in South Africa. I thought paying in advance and getting the insurance would be conservative against mishaps in countries where the off-the-beaten-path rural driving I planned might be sketchy.
I didn’t want to risk driving 11 hours super tired.
But you have 4 drivers to share the burden!
 
I rarely pay in advance either, just like I nearly always decline the insurance. I made some exceptions last year in Mexico for the eclipse and in South Africa. I thought paying in advance and getting the insurance would be conservative against mishaps in countries where the off-the-beaten-path rural driving I planned might be sketchy.

But you have 4 drivers to share the burden!
My kids aren’t as P platers are not qualified (insured) to drive a rental car. But yeah….
 
Do we think it may help if I offered a few hundred bucks tip to the person behind the rental desk?
I doubt that person has discretion. There's probably a dynamic pricing algorithm that's charges walkup customers an arm and a leg during this time frame. Once you passed the 24 hours, you're a walkup customer as far as their system is concerned. People behind the rental desk and in first response call centers are like robots and have to just follow the rules.

On one of my Calgary trips I forgot to tell the rental car company I had cut my trip back from 10 days to 6. The counter people would not adjust the rate. My only option would be to cancel the existing reservation (remember I had not paid in advance), then make a new one. But of course the new reservation would have been a walkup rate, so I was better off paying for the 10 days I had reserved in advance.

Sbooker should be calling the car rental company, demanding supervisors up the food chain until you get someone with decision making power. Then you explain that:
1) You were not just a no-show. You called to let them know of your situation during the time frame you were supposed to pick up the car.
2) You offered to have Kylie's aunt pick up the car within that time frame.
3) If they won't honor the original reservation given points 1) and 2), demand a refund, and if you don't get it, file a disputed claim with your credit card company.

Then you or Kylie's aunt should investigate off site rental companies like Enterprise that do most of their business on loaner cars when people are having repairs done on their own cars.
 
Just arrived in Mill Creek Utah.
I went to the desk and had my daughter with me. My wife and son and mother-in-law were not with us because they had to fly via Denver to get to SLC as there were not enough seats on our flight.
Anyway the unhelpful lady at rental desk almost delighted in telling me, after pleading our genuine case, that our reservation had been rented but she could provide a new one for $6200USD. (About 10 grand Aussie compared to the approx original price of $2000 Aussie). Knowing how stressed I had been in the last 24 hours Emily started crying fearing I would lose my composure. The lady shrugged and walked away out the back.
A nice fellow called to us and insisted he would help. He suggested that I not worry about ‘her’ as she has a habit of being difficult. He said he could override the main system to give us the rental at the price we paid months ago. He apologised for his colleague. The feeling of relief was immense. I made the guy’s Christmas financially.
Crikey. What a stressful time.
I will NEVER travel at holiday time again.
 
@Sbooker Good to hear that you made it to UT and found somebody to do the right thing on your rental car. I hadn't seen you found a flight and talked to my wife and Tony Crocker about whether we needed to offer to put you up for a night or two if needed. We are 43 miles/50 minutes (on weekends - much more at wrong time weekdays, especially if you can't use carpool/Fastrak lanes) from SFO and have 3 recently cleaned and empty bedrooms with clean sheets, etc. But we have been working hard for a while getting ready for friends we stayed with last month in Maui and their son (and his dog) from Boise who will be staying with us Christmas Eve between holiday visits to family in our area. Hope the rest of your trip is uneventful besides having great skiing.
 
@Sbooker Good to hear that you made it to UT and found somebody to do the right thing on your rental car. I hadn't seen you found a flight and talked to my wife and Tony Crocker about whether we needed to offer to put you up for a night or two if needed. We are 43 miles/50 minutes (on weekends - much more at wrong time weekdays, especially if you can't use carpool/Fastrak lanes) from SFO and have 3 recently cleaned and empty bedrooms with clean sheets, etc. But we have been working hard for a while getting ready for friends we stayed with last month in Maui and their son (and his dog) from Boise who will be staying with us Christmas Eve between holiday visits to family in our area. Hope the rest of your trip is uneventful besides having great skiing.
You’re a good man @tseeb
 
One of the people in the guest house where we stayed was over there and reported negatively. Silverado is not open and the Face is not even close. Surfaces are also more hardpacked. This does not surprise me considering that June averages about 2/3 of Mammoth's snowfall and is lower.

Mammoth's current conditions are an outlier, vastly superior to any other ski area in the US outside Washington, Oregon and Idaho.
Got it.
 
A nice fellow called to us and insisted he would help. He suggested that I not worry about ‘her’ as she has a habit of being difficult. He said he could override the main system to give us the rental at the price we paid months ago. He apologised for his colleague. The feeling of relief was immense.
You should write some executive at the car rental company giving positive feedback about the guy who helped you out along with the critique of the call center reps and the "difficult" lady. After my misadventure in Santa Barbara Sept. 3, I dropped by the office of the second tow company to give a plug to the driver who had been helpful to me.

I will NEVER travel at holiday time again.
As the one who gets critiqued for offering this advice, I'm not sure that's the lesson of this particular episode. The delayed flight from Brisbane was a a random event, could happen any time. The car rental policy of jacking rates to late arrivals is something I experienced in Mexico last April, paying $600 vs. $200 because I was on a flight arriving 4 hours later than my original booking.

Some of our friends are currently enjoying an Australia/New Zealand cruise. My critique of Christmas holiday travel is more specific to skiing because of the significant risk of poor to mediocre conditions.
 
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I'm not sure that's the lesson of this particular episode. The delayed flight from Brisbane was a a random event, could happen any time. The car rental policy of jacking rates to late arrivals is something I experienced in Mexico last April, paying $600 vs. $200 because I was on a flight arriving 4 hours later than my original booking.
Both instances of opportunistically jacking rates for last-minute rentals occurred during major travel periods: Sbooker during the Xmas holiday in one of the country's most popular ski regions and you in a location promising totality during the April eclipse. Ergo, not flying at this time of year -- as we strongly recommended, once-in-a-generation family event or not -- is a legitimate lesson learned.
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Thankfully both kids are now finished school so we don’t have to be tied to school holidays anymore.
We’re going to go slide around on some expectedly bad and very limited snow with a gazillion other punters at Snowbird this morning so Tom can try his new snowboard set up and Emily can try her skis that are an old set of mine that I had remounted for her. I hope she can drive them.
We had parking reserved at Alta yesterday but it’s booked out today. I have a parking reservation for tomorrow at Alta.
 
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Thankfully both kids are now finished school so we don’t have to be tied to school holidays anymore.
We’re going to go slide around on some expectedly bad and very limited snow with a gazillion other punters at Snowbird this morning so Tom can try his new snowboard set up and Emily can try her skis that are an old set of mine that I had remounted for her. I hope she can drive them.
We had parking reserved at Alta yesterday but it’s booked out today. I have a parking reservation for tomorrow at Alta.
Not going to Grand Targhee on this trip?
 
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Nice! I just looked at the web cams for GT. Snowing there now and it looks like mid-Winter. They have, like, 92 out of 95 trails open and more snow (maybe 1 to 2 feet?) is expected between Dec. 25 and Dec. 30. Jackson Hole has all their lifts open, including the tram, but only about 50% of their named trails are open.
 
Nice! I just looked at the web cams for GT. Snowing there now and it looks like mid-Winter. They have, like, 92 out of 95 trails open and more snow (maybe 1 to 2 feet?) is expected between Dec. 25 and Dec. 30. Jackson Hole has all their lifts open, including the tram, but only about 50% of their named trails are open.
I’m looking forward to Grand Targhee.
 
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